Albs: do not use necro's in rvr

[old.Morchaoron]

I've just had my first keep defence as a necro and its completely worthless!!

in close quarters the pet cant see ANYTHING, on stairs even the heal is 'out of sight', if you dont put it on passive it will jump around and you will lose control in a few seconds, if you let it attack it will only keep porting up and down.

I wasted my full power bar on the walls, i tried really hard placing it exactly between the battlements, but even though i could see my target, for some reason my pet couldnt, so it casted but it kept saying 'target is out of sight' and thus lost all my power...

and while i was sitting in tower i simply lost control of the pet, it died, i recasted it put it on passive but 3 seconds later it died again...

necro's are excellent for pl's, but save you sanity: DON'T bring them to the frontiers, they are the most useless rvr class ever...

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Amen

 

[Ezeine]

:great:

 

[Vaire]

 

[tris-]

owned by.... your self?

:scared:

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by n3wbie
owned by.... your self?

:scared:

yup, the only thing i was doing was keeping my pet alive vs....... itself

 

[speshneeds]

question - can lvl50 necro solo diamond mobs in df?

 

[Cybwyn]

Good for one on ones wandering up and down Sauvage road but we all know how often a one on one happens......

As for any other aspect of RvR (apart from setting GT in keep sieges), forget it. My necro is RR3 now and has pretty much all of the RAs I wanted anyway so I'll be using it less and less in RvR.

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by speshneeds
question - can lvl50 necro solo diamond mobs in df?

i havent tried yet, but i think its impossible unbuffed...

buffed would be very hard, since the mob will resist loads and the pet has trouble meleeing yellows...

but its excellent to af debuff the diamond mobs for any tank

 

[Cybwyn]

Originally posted by speshneeds
question - can lvl50 necro solo diamond mobs in df?

Yes but you need a L40+ buffbot; L46+ is preferable though for the final spec CON buff.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Yeah but morch it worked great in emain though xD

 

[ghoul]

oh hi der xD

 

[Sharma]

Deathservant can solo diamond mobs unbuffed

Nice HoT + Insta 11dps dmg shield = :great:

 

[old.mattshanes]

You aint seen what a buffed bd can do vs diamond mobs with buffed pets sharma?

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by sharma
Deathservant can solo diamond mobs unbuffed

Nice HoT + Insta 11dps dmg shield = :great:

true, but thats about the only thing the class can do with deathservant spec...

make a friar and you will be useful at rvr AND good at farming diamond seals

 

[Gamah]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
You aint seen what a buffed bd can do vs diamond mobs with buffed pets sharma?

poor sycho getting all excited over mid again!

 

[Sharma]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
You aint seen what a buffed bd can do vs diamond mobs with buffed pets sharma?

You must be daft, ofc i have, tanking like 2/3 purps at once and soloing Cthonic knights etc = fooking nuts :E

BDs are like, stupid tbh

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Gamah
poor sycho getting all excited over mid again!

I am?

tbh i am edging away from the game....

 

[Sharma]

Lies Matt!

You must get rr10l10 before you quit!

 

[Bebopbo]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
they are the most useless rvr class ever...

no they aint ...it help us hibs

......albs roll more plz

 

[old.mattshanes]

You will change your mind if you are af debuffed and hit 1k by a pole armsman

 

[Danya]

Nerf necros!

 

[Balbor]

the standard Deathsight spec is crap for RvR but the other to lines offer better spells, a necro using BPAE DOT near climb point ill not only destealth assassins but prevent them form stealthing until cure or it runs out.

But i doubt anyone will spec that way cause it mean standard leveling.

 

[amuse]

ppl complaining aboute RvR with necros cant play RvR with necros.... btw, u know there is a "here" button in ur pet window, right?
just stand where u can see the enemy, and press here, and pet will come to where u are standing, and can see the enemy.
and besides... RvR aint only aboute keep takes/retakes. a necro in a grp, will do LOADS of dmg, and help the tanks by af debuffing the mids/hibs (if the necro knows how to play RvR)
and while doing keep defence u must keep ur pet on pasive, and whats bad aboute that?? if some stealther comes up and atacks it, there is plenty of other ppl around to kill the stealther......
and if ur secondary spec is death servant u can stand ower the gate, and pbaoe.. takes loads of dmg all together, even though it doesnt hurt a single target that much, it sure as hell hurts 15 targets...

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
I am?

tbh i am edging away from the game....

Tell us what you play next and names and things
I'm currently subscribed to 0 MMORPG's again.

 

[tieris]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
You will change your mind if you are af debuffed and hit 1k by a pole armsman

Givf aoe af debuff to make us usefull in rvr ^^

Ps.. give back los bug, havent seen an "i hate necros" thread for ages

 

[bigchief]

Originally posted by Balbor
the standard Deathsight spec is crap for RvR but the other to lines offer better spells, a necro using BPAE DOT near climb point ill not only destealth assassins but prevent them form stealthing until cure or it runs out.

But i doubt anyone will spec that way cause it mean standard leveling.

/wave


Shame its only 4 ticks and not 6 like a cabbies

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by amuse
ppl complaining aboute RvR with necros cant play RvR with necros.... btw, u know there is a "here" button in ur pet window, right?
just stand where u can see the enemy, and press here, and pet will come to where u are standing, and can see the enemy.
and besides... RvR aint only aboute keep takes/retakes. a necro in a grp, will do LOADS of dmg, and help the tanks by af debuffing the mids/hibs (if the necro knows how to play RvR)
and while doing keep defence u must keep ur pet on pasive, and whats bad aboute that?? if some stealther comes up and atacks it, there is plenty of other ppl around to kill the stealther......
and if ur secondary spec is death servant u can stand ower the gate, and pbaoe.. takes loads of dmg all together, even though it doesnt hurt a single target that much, it sure as hell hurts 15 targets...

Its not that i cant play it, but its far from perfect, the problem in rvr is you have to do everything fast, REAL FAST! and the pets control is TERRIBLE, it reacts too slow to some things, building a class based on a pet was a big mistake, their pet system is too primitive for such a thing...

You cant get around the facts, control of the pet = shit


However, it would be very easy for mythic to fix this and make everyone happy, i know they wont do it, but this is how it should be, maybe they will read it, who knows, what do i have to lose? nothing except some annonymous people whining here that i posted this

Switch the roles! you become the abomination and the shade becomes your invulnerable pet, all spells will still be cast by their original caster, but since the shade is invulnerable, bad pathing/buggy area's wont put you in any danger.
Shade's should not lose control when they are too far away from you, so if you want to keep it 5 miles away from you, thats fine, you wont be able to cast any spells with it so it wont really matter.
The dps of your sword should be that of your staff, and your procs should be that of your armor and staff, and str con dex quick will affect your performance in combat
Give the abomination priest type hitpoints and remove its absurd absorb when buffed and remove the magic vulnerability
When casting the 'shade' spells, the shade only has to be in range of you, not in sight nor will you have to be facing it.
All spells the shade casts will but channeled through you like its channeled through the pet right now, this would take care of the ridiculous 'triple sight' thing we have right now (which doesnt even seem to work right)

these changes would make it a very fun class, since you would have perfect control over all your actions, and you will be able to cast your primairy spells with a much greater precision, and FP should be alot easier to use and all RA's should work on you (still not on the 'shade' pet but who cares). I doubt this would be very hard to program (this seems to be mythics greatest problem, since after more then 5 patches 'Empty Mind' is still not working)

such a shame mythic are a bunch of game amateurs, with rvr teamleaders that lead zergs everyday giving them advice... heh...

but it wouldnt be that bad would it?

 

[Graknak]

just make a lvl 50 focusbob and get yer local bb whore if ya want to kill diamondmobs

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by Graknak
just make a lvl 50 focusbob and get yer local bb whore if ya want to kill diamondmobs

or get a friar and forget about the bb whore