Albion :Poss Inf Spec

[old.Dingo]

Hi,

Any albs looking to spec an inf then might I suggest the following specification path :

Stealth
Dont add any points to stealth until level 24. This will auto train you to lvl 6 in stealth from about level 8 onwards. Saving points to add elsewhere e.g slash. Once level 24 get stealth upto around 19/20 (extra point in slash/thrust ???). Beastere's stealth before bonuses is 20 and you can easily get items to get +5 Stealth for this lvl e.g cloak of shades (lvl13 quest), cheshire cat boots (lvl24 otd).
+5 bonus from items = 25 Stealth
Evenom
Envenom of level 20 will allow you with a virulent fishing hook from bwgul fishermen to get access to the level 22 str/con 55points debuff, this coupled with the greater lethal envenom (about 30 +/- damage a tick) will allow you to take down all bar decent tanks. Can usually kill keens/elfs with a failed pa, non spec melee swing/s and let the envenom do the rest, very nice for hit and run tactics.
+2 bonus from items = 22 Envenom
Fast take down combo on blades = Greater lethal on right hand and lesser str/con debuff on left hand and greater lethal yet again on 2 handed slot. This has allowed me to take down 2 enemies at same time. Main PA and left envenom on 1st target and 2 handed envenom on 2nd target. 2 keens dead without much trouble. Even worked on a keen with PA/Envenom and meleed Kroma down (was close and a little lucky though )
If you want to hang around on a tougher target or one with speed then have str/con debuff, imbalance on main 2 weps with greater envenom on 2 handed weapon.

Slash/Thrust
Depending on who you want to cause the most pain to then you choose your spec. If you want SB's like I do then go slash and you'll get damage bonus. Thrust generally is the spec for most infs and has the best lvl 50 attack if you want to lvl your character beyong BG1. My slash skill is 13 without bonuses.
+4 bonus from items (should be +5 but selected different item bonuses for stat increases) = 17 Slash (suggest alternative of dropping a point in stealth to get an extra point for Slash, might try if GOA dont fix respec bug today to test)

Critical Strike
Unless you are trying the merciltraitor spec (dont suggest this at lvl 24 and below) then I'd always get it to level 21 for the lovely perforate artery move. With this, slash spec, envenom I have taken weaker races down in one hit e.g. elfs, keens and rarely a kobold on a high PA attack.
+5 from items = 26 Critical Strike

Dual Wield
Lowest spec'd here with this spec'd to 3 levels. With items I have +4 (maybe 5 will check) = 7 (8)

With the above spec I can honestly say I fear no other stealther as the inf benefits massively from the 2.5xlvl spec points. If another realms stealther can see me before I can see them then theyre most likely gimped elsewhere. There's no class that I really fear with exception to the real heavy tanks (trolls, some dwarfs, firbolgs) oh and enchanters, but if you kill them the pets die too . Nothing better than taking out two of the little buggers and watching their poncy pets slump to the deck . Will try respec out and see if a point in slash and a point out of stealth makes much difference overall.

Anyhow enjoy, if anyone wants the whole item combination I use I'll happiliy provide this also. Base hitpoints when armoured and equipped = 497 buffed 599.

Happy hunting.....

Beastere
Beaster

 

[SilverHood]

if you fear no stealther then you haven't met Kaun... both buffed or unbuffed

nice hits btw, My kobbie has 489 @ lvl 23 unbuffed

 

[old.Dingo]

Never seen Kaun about to be honest, but pa'd by kobolds and nightshades and still take em down with envenom combination and garrotte and evades moves. As I said fear no other stealther. Will be on tomorrow night.

Cheers...

 

[Roalith]

Chesire boots are actually a level 25 OTD - or at least they used to be, damn sure of that.

After playing around this weekend my infil's final spec is:


21+2 CS
23+2 envenom
19+4 stealth
1 DW
9 slash

Or otherwise known as an envenom-inf. 25 env gives you the level 25 dot poison, doing about 40 damage per tick for 6 ticks. PA with snare, Garotte to get your dot poison off, then if you have time or the hit points swap weapons and get your debuff poison off - I've only once had an opponent survive this, and that was because they ran back to their zerg and got thrown a cure poison and a heal =/

 

[sebula_strings]

Beastere,

You are really powerfull, you almost killed me and Ailyssa yesterday evening.

I was thinking of going to Albion just to make an Infiltrator but the people here in Hibernia are so nice and polite. Also if i would consider to go to Albion i would like to know if i could join your guild, you seem like a very nice person to me.


I'm making a lurikeen champion name Celendil, and if you want a 1 on 1 with her /send me a message. I will first try out this Champion and then i will let you know my decision...

Oh, just don't fall for her ok?

And neither for her fancy sword...

< Sebula 2x Nightshade - EE >

 

[old.Dingo]

Hi Roalith,

Cheshire boots dropped for my original Inf (Beaster) at lvl 24 mob conned orange to me but they still dropped.

Hi Sebula,

Thankyou for the compliment will /sal and /bow next time I see you. I was after thufir who I almost got but he managed to get to safety before I could have a second swipe , then came across you Ailyssa, took Ailyssa out and almost had you but you got the well deserved kill on me although I was waiting to see if the 2nd hand poison would finish you off....it didnt , usually see your name come up for kills etc but so hard for us stealthers to meet sometimes eh . Re the guild I'll ask, I'm one of the two chapter leaders for the Caster group in my guild (The30) but the Guildmaster tends to prefer players who have their mains on Prydwen Albion, all the same I'll ask either way.
Will be looking for you from now on

Cheers.....

 

[allnewdave]

u dont listen to Sugar do ya?

 

[old.Dingo]

Who/what is sugar ? (apart from white sweet stuff you put on cereal in morning )

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

just 1 little point

mate, stealth is capped at 24 at level 24 on thid.

so if you know you have +5 in items for stealth. save yourself 20 spec points for your slash or envenom.

you having stealth 25 is no better than the SB who has stealth 24. you are both on minimum visibility bubble.

sounds like a nice spec, im trying a similar thing with my shadowblade on excalibur thidranki, though with a lower envenom skill (havent got access to 2.5pts)

regards all, interesting posts above.

 

[old.Dingo]

Many thanks Krogar, didnt know about the 24 cap will make a spec change to raise slash at expense of stealth. Thanks again for the information .

Kind regards.....

 

[andyr00barb]

Sounds similiar to my spec, I went: -
19+5 Stealth
13+5 Thrust
20 Env
22+2 Crit
2 DW (had a spare couple of points)

I'd be interested to know how common the virulent fishing hook drop is. I got a lvl36 armsmen, would he be able to kill the mob that drops it?

Managed to get that pesky cat for the boots drops very recently with my friar, conned yellow to me @ 24. For anyone interested he seemed to spawn west of the first lake you see when leaving Snowdonia fortress. Been searching for the guy for ages and he aggro'd on me twice in 5 mins, unbelievable.

What kind of mids/hibs should I be looking to take down with this kind of spec?

I was concentrating on casters last night with hit and run tactics (with some degree of success). I did try attacking a healer last night and after my pa I think he insta'd. I'm sure if he hadn't been busy blocking me with his shield he'd have taken a moment to /laugh (I tried him in amongst a full group of others)

 

[old.Dingo]

Virulent fishing hook is a common drop, a few guys in my guild had them to give them away, if you wish I can ask if they will sell you one for a small donation to our guild trader funds, failing that let me know and if you want I'll come along this evening and farm them for a while with you if you wish ?

Regarding what I can take down with my spec. With PA I can take down any class thats a keen or elf and sometimes kobolds. I have meleed and killed with envenom Kroma who is a celt tank class, although when we next met she killed me was close for both parties on both occasions. Trolls/Firbolgs I can take down with melee and combination of poisons. Hit 1st with greater lethal, str con debuff then once greater lethal runs out use 2 handed weapon for more greater lethal, thats as long as theyre not a good skilled tank and you've been unlucky and had no evades otherwise they'll probably be dancing on you. You could you the disease toxin which I have been told stop's casters from healing/casting but havent tested myself yet. I can hand on heart say I fear no class with the exception to enchanters with their lethal pets, especially the lame enchanters who dye their clothes blue and camp whilst their pet nukes from a distance (valid tactic but must get boring after a while), any other class tends to see the poisons hit and lose confidence a little which either makes em run or chase me to either I'm dead or my realm mates assist.

Let me know if you want me to ask about or help you get a fishing hook as they really help.

Cheers.....

 

[andyr00barb]

Dingo, out of interest, did you go a saracen or a briton? I may be in touch in game to find out if some of your guild mates have that fishing hook. Where do u wear the fishing hook?

Regards

 

[old.Dingo]

As I wanted to primarily hunt leather wearing SB's I went Briton and Slash for slightly higher strength and Con. Hook is worn in the jewellery slot above the bracer slots on the left hand side. Got some 2 jewels of the prowlers if any albs need them also, they got nice stat and stealth bonus if you dont have the nasher drop jewel which gives plus to cs. Will be on tonight from about 19:00gmt onwards, gimme a yell and we'll meet up and I'll show you what kit I have.

Cheers....

 

[Roalith]

Fishing hook is a jewelery slot item.

In terms of take downs, level 25 venom gives you 38 damage /tick.

This gives you 228 damage over 6 ticks, provided target doesn't get a poison cure.

Add this to a PA of at least 150, and a garotte or two of 80 damage... not a lot stands up to that.

 

[Generic Poster]

Which is this Nasher drop you speak of, and names/stats of your items/armour/weaponry would be appreciated

 

[andyr00barb]

Are many infs using the darkness falls armor in bgs? My mate's got the leather legs and is quite happy with 'em. Considering the length of time you actually get to spend in bgs because of the dirty rlm pts limit, does it matter that some of the stuff is purple/red con?

Personally I'm using a mix of molded/observers and possibly some bloodied. Observers helm is well worth scouring keltoi for (+2 to stealth). Oh, and the cat hide boots give 13 dex as well as the nice stealth bonus, also worth searching for.

 

[SilverHood]

my SB had all DF bracers/rings, a lvl 50 jewel for +3 envenom and a lvl 45 necklace for +2 stealth

Had to run to a town to fix it once in my BG time

 

[old.Dingo]

Silverhood, I thought items were capped 20 lvls above ? e.g I cant use a lvl 45 item at lvl 24 ?

GenericPoster, When I get home I'll post all me items and where you grab them from. Think I have been a dumbass as macabre medallion (nice which I use) drops from Nasher and the Jewel Of Dark Beauty (nice cs bonus + more) drops from tegs. Either way I'll look and post tonight.

Cheers....

Greg

 

[old.Bubble]

Gerrard is lvl 22 and has only been beaten a few times by SZ's(ie dueled nubishadowblade without stealth...and lost same with tonberi at about 3 am outside the apk when we were all board

his spec at 22 is
17 slash +5
20 stealth +5
1 DW +5
21 CS
5 env

he oneshots most orange con casters with his 99% qual bastard sword
in his other hands he uses Serrated Lion fangs (red con 100%qual OTD slash weapons with nice bonus)
he uses 2 DF emerald seal rings (+7 str +20ish hp)
his bracers are DF saphire seal (+2 DW +2 stealth +7 dex)
i lost my belt some how(i blame jexa...)
necklace is DF emerald seal(+6 str,dex,qui)
cloak is a quest +2 stealth one
Armour is 99% qual player made AF50 enchanted apart from gloves which are AF70 OTD with +2slash +2DW +7dex
i'm looking for +env items through
i only really use the snare in the env line stop them from running

 

[old.chesnor]

Welcome to Thidranki TwinkWars(tm)......

Its a bit like buffbots in real RvR (I have actually seen buffbots in Thidranki btw). Eventually the uberness of your char is determined by the ultimate twinked equipment setup you can get from your mains.

Not a criticism, just an observation

 

[SilverHood]

but since you don't know whether that Infil down there is twinked or not, you really don't have a chance if you aren't moderately twinked yourself. Seing as infils are overpowered already

Silverhood, I thought items were capped 20 lvls above ? e.g I cant use a lvl 45 item at lvl 24 ?

No Idea - LVL 50 DF items don't work, but this one is from the mainland, and works fine

 

[Generic Poster]

I'm not impressed with the TwinkWars, as you call them.

When I was in Thidranki before, the only 'above-level' item I had was my orange-con saber. Back then I was determined to make my inf work by only using items for my level.

I'm looking to train another inf and this one will be spec'd different, very different, and twinked like mad.


Thidranki will know me once again, oh yes.

 

[old.chesnor]

Funniest thing about twinking is, people moan "omg, I cap sooo quickly in Thid, its stupid yadda yadda". Then proceed to tool themselves up with lvl35 drops, items brough with SAPPHIRE seals (at lvl24 you will NOT be killing mobs to drop a reliable supply of sapphire seals) so they are uber killing machines...

Wheres the challenge? Part of the fun of playing (for me anyway) this game, is that I pit my skills and wits against other people. Some I win, some I lose. The 'buzz' is that when I get my ass handed to me on a plate, I can try another tactic. Sometimes I had running battles with SBs in Thid, numerous fights, some I lost, some I won. I had absolutely no thought for rushing out of Thid, logging my main and twinking my Infil just to get the edge.

For me, this game is interesting 'cos I die sometimes. I would get no fun rampaging around Thidranki as a level30 char 'pwning' everyone. I suggest most of the serial-twinkers are the kind of people who buy a new game, and are on the web 20mins later looking up the cheats for god mode.....

 

[old.Dingo]

Yup I can see what you are saying about Twinked characters I'd say the majority of the players in the battlegrounds have high level alts already. If you can honestly say that you've not passed any gold, items or sped up the leveling process the kudos to you, /sal , /bow etc and I congratulate you on your patience and time you invest in this game. I however just play the game to have fun, I dont want to use crappy items when I have earnt the right to use more powerful items. Besides should you belong to a reasonable guild you'd automatically get items passed on down to you from the more senior members. Either way people play the game the way they want to play and good luck to them as long as it's not cheating or making other players lives miserable. Also please read up and you'll see I've offered to assist andyr00barb or any other player in my realm to obtain the items by taking on the dropping mobs for real.


Have fun.

Cheers.....

 

[sebula_strings]

Beastere,

My nightshade is wearing alot of 40+ items. They really help, like +4 Envenom on gloves and + 2 stealth / +2 envenom on a jewel.

This gives me + 5 ( actually 7 ) stealth
+ 5 ( actually 7 ) blades
+ 5 ( actually 6 ) envenom

Altho the 2.5 spec you Albs get you will always be overpowered in at least one spec.

And about the guild The30..

I have played some characters in Albion when i first started play this game. I have even been in The30 but only for a short time 'cause of the 'grumpy' people i have met. Wild Thing and Desdecado were nice blokes and it was fun to play with them.

My Champion now is level 14 and he will have a full set of AF 98 Scale armor + a 'fancy' sword, if i were you i would defenitely try to get your hands on some low level items...

I will be logging on my Nightshade this evening, hope we can /sal /bow and have some fun, just don't kill me but help me kill mids

Kind regards....

 

[old.Dingo]

Aye Sebula death to the mids......(and some hibs )
Desdecado is guildmaster and Wild is a top bloke

Anyhow as promised kit run down

Armour (Eternal Strife all emerald gear from df red&purp at 24)
Eternal Strife Jerkin = +21 hits +6 dex
Eternal Strife Sleeves = +6 Str +6 dex +4 quickness
Eternal Strife Leggings = +10 Con +6 Str
Cat Hide Boots = +2 Stealth +13 Dex (lvl 24 otd snowdonia)
Eternal Strife Gauntlets = +6 Quick +3 Con +2 Crit Strike
Eternal Strife Helm = +6 Quick + 6 Dex +4 Con

Weapons
Serrated Lion Fangs x 2 = +2 Slash +2 Dual Wield +7 Str (lvl 30ish otd's Red at lvl 24)
Dark Scimitar = Str +3 Quickness +3 (yellow at 24 from keltoi)
Dark Short Sword = Slash +2 (yellow at 24 from keltoi)
Runewood Storebought crossbow = no bonus orange at lvl 24

Jewels and Accessories
Jewel of Dark Beauty = Stealth +3 Crit Strike +3 (lvl 39 item)
Macabre Scarab Rings x2 = Hits +18 Str+7 (DF bought)
Macabre Scarab Bracers x2 = Con +9 Dex +7 (DF bought)
Belt of Etheric mist = Stealth +3 Dex +6 Quick +6 (lvl 48??? quick bonus only)
Morbid Mantle = +4 Str +6 Dex +6 Quick (lvl 35)
Macabre Medallion = +12 hits +2 stealth +6 quick +6 Dex

 

[old.chesnor]

Poor weapon choice there Dingo....

Use crafted Jambiyas or Sabres from your local friendly crafter. Roalith made me a 99% sabre and 98% jambiya, the dmg output on these was much better than Dark Shortsword/Scimitar, even with the bonuses those drops bring.

Both dark shortsword and dark scimitar are 89% quality. The quality is applied after all caps, and that drop in dps is just not worth the (crappy) bonuses they have.

I found with my jambiya in offhand rather than serrated lion fang I missed less as well, even with the DW bonus (SLF was a red cons, lvl30ish item), fine ally jambiya and sabres both cons orange at 24, but go yellow at 25.

Try it for yourself though, but I did alot more hurt with 2 jambiyas or 1 sabre/1 jambiya (for the PA).

 

[keela is]

oh my god you guys are sad making a perfect specc and _oh so cool_ weapons JUST FOR A LVL 24 BG CHAR !!

Grow up !

its not about beeing 3733t you silly assassins !.

 

[old.chesnor]

Well, derrrrrrr!

Okay, I'll go there with my Sword of the Initiate shall I, and a full set of Tattered Rawhide Leather Armour.

And of course people 'discuss' the perfect items/spec for their characters, whether they are lvl24, 44 or 50.

This is a battlegounds discussion forum you muppet....