Albion is a mess.

[Saturnine]

I`m going to rant for a bit so stop listening now if you don`t want to hear it....

<ahem>

Albion has gone to hell.

No organisation, no tactics, epic cowardice on the battlefield, no alliance interaction, no hunting-on-the-frontier (at level 20+ when it`s possible), no commitment, no nothing!

Admitably not all of the above is needed to make the realm tougher but it could at least make it more interesting. As it is I`m getting sickeningly board of Emain stand-offs and lvl50-stealther camped Odin's milegates...

hmm, on second thoughts - no I`m not: because the few people that do have a clue make it all the more interesintg. Perhaps when the mindless minions get trained up a little more and battlerealms comes out to train them up a little something can be done about our relics - or the 2 week delay before any of our keeps are re-taken.....

I can't even think why I`m going to post this now apart from to tell the people who are thinking of ditching the sunken-ship that is Albion to not give up because being the underdog only makes us stronger!

(by stronger I mean substantially weaker)

(and the hibbys may be less in number (apparantly) but when they do motivate themselves to actually bother to go and RvR they don`t do too badly)

 

[SilverHood]

and the hibbys may be less in number (apparantly) but when they do motivate themselves to actually bother to go and RvR they don`t do too badly)

There's actually hibs playing on prydwen?

All I hear of hibs is some ghost killing unawares and getting away..... Revminster I think his name was

Never seen a hib in Emain..... never

Did see an elf stealther in yggdra though - shame he got away

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

saw a group of hibs at amg today first time ever

 

[old.dwyte]

stronger = weaker.... new one for me

sick but not... nice to see you put allot of thaught into what you type.

if you havent seen hibs in rvr you cant be there much then, i have seen them a few times and every time i have i havent lived long enough to warn people.

as i have said before, play to have fun, if you arent take a break untill us 'mindless minions' get a clue...

 

[old.mattshanes]

i agree half the albs r cowards.

 

[old.Faye Arwen]

sad agreement, but true
I'm suprised they dont seem to want it organized, the whole realm seems scattered.

 

[old.Lorimez]

Cowards hmph!

LOL cowards!

I'm gonna post my protest on behalf of all those peeps who r v r, end up (without doubt! ) facing a red con middie, and die within about 4 - 5 hits.

I've been in some great r v r groups, the one when 25 40 -50's got together and wiped out soo many Middies it was fun!

I'm also in a guild ( Phoenix Legion ) which have never run from combat in r v r, when I've been with them. I've lost count the amount of times I've been mullered by red con middies yet still stand toe to toe with them.

Maybe your all grouping with the wrong peeps?

Come and have a go if you think your hard enough . . .

 

[old.Bubble]

the ammount of "fall back" i hear getting yelled by newbies is amazing

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

"you died fighting for your realm, you lose NO experience"
what is there to fear??
you kill or die release and go back again.
better to die in honor than to run away like a coward

 

[kr0n]

Bohoo. Do summit and stop blabbering stupid things.

 

[old.cerebus]

You must know us Hibs!

We're the ones with all our forts, we're the ones who are actually fighting the Mids, we're the ones who go to Yggdra, we're the ones taking Mid forts.

Just because we have the sense to not just keep going to Emain every single day to get our asses kicked doesn't mean we're not around.

I think you'll find we are the realm with the smallest population, it's just we don't moan all the time. We get organized and fight twice as hard.

You Albs have the power to own this server, you just need to start communicating better and trying new tactics.

 

[old.mattshanes]

put it this way there was only 5 middies and 20-30 albs and the albs still ran then u tell me what u call that?

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Originally posted by cerebus
You must know us Hibs!

We're the ones with all our forts, we're the ones who are actually fighting the Mids, we're the ones who go to Yggdra, we're the ones taking Mid forts.

we did a relic attempt today, if GOA hadnt fucked we would have had them, and yes we went for the relic, not just Bledmeer.

 

[old.Gaian]

Good work Albs today. Even though you may not get your relic back, for the least you still prove that you are not a realm of headless chicken. And to break the relic door! Lol you know how much it costs to repair them

After crushing the remain middies defend squad and retake crauchon, Hibs heard news that Albs are on the relic and middies guarding the AMG. So as you can expect we turn up at amg, hoping for a 3 -way fight, and doing you albs a favour. only to see the WHOLE midgard guarding there (Really, every single corner is covered outside AMG by mids ) and none of albs are around, which is wise

Quote from alliance sources, 174 Middies at AMG, 71 of them lvl 50. NON-ANON! comparing to whole hibernia population = 250......

now you understand why we do our raid so early?

 

[old.cerebus]

Aye, well done to Albs, it's about time though isn't it.

Unfortunatly it showed that the Mids are really too powerful and numbered for this Server to become even at least for the time being.

 

[old.dwyte]

tonights relic raid would have been done and dusted long before mids knew about it had it gone to plan, delayed by at least an hour, after everyone in upland LDed, we tried to regroup and start again, then a second mass LD, costing us at least an hour, your 1st squad never showed up till we where inside, if we had that hour we woulda been in and gone before you knew it....

was a very disapointing night for me anyways, we should have had our relic back, no matter though, there is always tomorrow

guess us 'mindless minions' are cowards after all huh?

 

[cHodAX]

Originally posted by Saturnine
I`m going to rant for a bit so stop listening now if you don`t want to hear it....

<ahem>

Albion has gone to hell.

No organisation, no tactics, epic cowardice on the battlefield, no alliance interaction, no hunting-on-the-frontier (at level 20+ when it`s possible), no commitment, no nothing!

Quite frankly what a load of fuking drivel you are spouting, for the first time we are able to hold our own in battle against the Mids. I have never even seen you RvR and yet you are preaching to the people who go there every night and try their best? Give me a break, I am up there night after night and I rarely see Albions run from a fight. As for exp'ing the the frontier well you need to get out a bit more, I have spent at least 3 hours a day exping in Snowdonia for the last month and there are ALWAYS people in the frontier, if you can't see them with /who it is because they use /anon.

Tactics are a problem agreed, what is more of a problem is dickheads spamming /s during the whole raid when the raid leader is trying to organise with his battleplan. No commitment?? You must be joking, 20 of us took 5 keeps last week in the middle of the night. We took Bledmyr and held it for ages against overwhelming odds. That is a lack of commitment? Frankly your comments make my blood boil, if you can do better then do it instead of running down all your fellow Albions but then I guess it is just easier to sit on you arse and let your gums flap...

 

[Luuna]

"you kill or die release and go back again.
better to die in honor than to run away like a coward"

There is nothing honourable about getting ganked by Mids on one side and Albs on the other in Emain.

 

[Coren]

Zzzz @ all these people repeating the same thing over and over again... All this stuff about us getting slaughtered in Emain all the time and the lack of communication is weeks old. Please update your information by actually playing in Alb or participating in RvR on a regular base before complaining.

 

[Saturnine]

Bravo!

Darlings, sweeties and huns,
As you may have notcied I posted my albion-bashing tripe at around 3:30 yesterday (forum time).
As you are slightly likely to have noticed by now - there was a (somewhat interesting) relic raid last night that..

No organisation-
I don`t want to say qwegji having tab pressed and not seeing orders but aside from that `twas as master plan.

No tactics-
There seemed to be a fair bit of planning - especially by SoTL

Epic cowardice on the battlefield-
Bravely multicoloured array of cons charging at the relic guards

No alliance interaction-
Could have been a bit better but what the hell, it was good enough

No hunting-on-the-frontier-
I don`t actually care about that I was just trying to make albion sound slightly worse

No commitment-
2 Server crashes and people up to god-know`s-what-time. Exceptional helpings of bravo to everyone!

No nothing!-
Yes, well, I think that relic raid had a little bit of everything.

Albion has finally scraped itself back together and if I was a middie in the comming months I`d be getting a little less comfortable with realm-supremacy.

(mind you I doubt it`d take them more than 39seconds to charge into Snowdonnia or Sauvage and take it back :/

 

[old.Isos]

how much beating we may take in emain is not really important,
well arent you allowed to die when two lv 50 trolls with huge hammers is pounding in your little tin can for helm? =)

and it was a long time since I saw someone running from any mids in emain and I rather stay and fight rather then run becuse then your probably gonna die anyway.

the real important parts in this games are keeps and relics and I think we have prowed that we can in fact work togheter =)

 

[old.Kladen]

i do agree in the amount of cowardice in albion. its much more than 1/2 no one ever seems to charge and if someone does the wait till the yare way ahead before they do. i always end up dying because of charging. people dont seem to fight at their full and are prepared to run back if someone shouts 'fall back'.

only few actually have the nerve of charging and ive neva ever seen a battle where both side charge into each other. if middies charge we ALWAYS run or if we charge back they ALWAYS run. also albion only seem to charge if they outnumber them 2 to 1


on the case about hibbie, they are nearly as strong as albion. every hibbie i see is yellow or orange mostly adn ive seen loads of hibbies in frontiers few in emain, mainly in odin but people neva go odin for some reason.

 

[old.Jadow]

It's kinda funny to see a double standard here

As an infiltrator I choose all my targets. I have that luxury. Because I see an orange cone thane, does that mean I should attack him? No way! Does that make me a coward? Of course not. I sidle off all stealthed 'n' stuff and wait for the next green or blue to wander off on his own.

But for a tank of similiar level, someone appears to be suggesting that without considering the size of the forces that this tank is facing, he should just charge in hell for leather and start throwing amethyst around? Tosh

Jadow
Lvl 4x Infiltrator
Unguilded.

 

[old.Zarff]

Well if u haven't seen hibbies in emain u must either b blind or u don't rvr enuff. Since hibbies got some lvl 50 chars ive seen em running around in odin's and emain lots of times. I don't know about u guys but i always meet Tradolf and Furball. Maybe hibbies r scared of u albs but i don't think so, cuz we r finally talking about som real fighters that fears nothing. Actually hibbies camped our mmg in emain.... keep up the good work hibbies nice to c there is a 3rd realm on pryd!

 

[Solid]

The Hibs have a couple of killer 8 man strike teams (all level 45+) that run around Yggdra and Emain (More Yggdra) and I have died to em on a few occasions in Emain.

These guys have great tactics and work really good in a team (Damn them Slam specced Bullwinkles)

Albs main force (the tanks and casters) use rather different tactics, as is already pointed out, they usually dont ever charge unless they outnumber us, if its equal numbers, I am usually Mezzed ijn 2 secs and end up standing there for 2 mins while 4 tanks amass to gank me (effective yes but oh how I hate it)

The Alb Minstrels and Infiltrators have best tactics in your realm, they really know how to play their class, same with all stealthers IMO.

 

[old.Zepra]

Originally posted by Gombur Glodson
better to die in honor than to run away like a coward

This coming from a minstrel

 

[old.Bubble]

Infs and Mini's have Steath as u said...Its very hard for us albs to Mount an attack when you have so meny runies and Hunters outside our PK(Smurf army was there last night)

Just to say we have a LOE group that hangs around emain doing a bit of killing we may not be high lvl but our tactics are sound and we hold our own against lvl 50 mid groups (Placebo joined us last night and had a laugh with us)

 

[Ottar]

> The Alb Minstrels and Infiltrators have best tactics in your
> realm, they really know how to play their class

Dunno about infiltrators. They as all assassin classes are impossible to catch but easy to counter.

Minstrels.. Minstrels, as seen from Midgard side of the trenches may well be one reason for albion downfall. There is alot of noise about smite clerics not doing their basic job, which is healing. Quite similarly, the favourite pasttime of minstrels seems to be playing pseudo-infiltrators. Aye, minstrels are quite good at that role. Also means almost always, albion groups move at half speed compared to midgard troops, as Minstrells hunt solo while most Midgard groups have 1 or more skalds.

Tactics.. what you say is basically that solo hunter-killer types know how to play their chars. No surprise there. What really matters, however, is effectiveness of groups and bigger forces. Tactics of teamplay.

Problem is, there can be NO group tactics without discipline. That is a one scarce commodity in multiplayer games in general. Therefore, really aint much tactics too. Goes for all realms, Midgard’s no exception. What we beat you with is pride, confidence and stamina. Tactics wise, most RvR is very much like one tribe of cavemen charging other tribe of cavemen sometimes 30000 years BC.

What we see in battlefields may look like well developed tactics, really is just general improvement of gameplay skills due to people doing RvR alot. One makes toy umbrellas to put in exotic coctails for 3 months non-stop, one eventually makes better umbrellas faster. No rocket science but achievable and better than nothing, I guess.

Ottar

 

[Jupitus]

mmmm smart guy, that Ottar chap.... wonder if he does consultancy??

 

[old.Gryllus]

Tactics wise, most RvR is very much like one tribe of cavemen charging other tribe of cavemen sometimes 30000 years BC.

Muhaha, somehow I had always the same feeling...
Very, very good example!

As a matter of fact, in most cases there is no time to use such a well-designed taktics, like in broodwar, or any real-time strategy game. Enemy comes, you may die in 3-4 hits, you get mezzed in a seconds time. As an armsman I always could do only the same: seek enemy, stick, try to kill, seek enemy ... A well organized hunter group makes that far effectiver, with speed and other buffs, mezzers, rooters are helluva useful.
But in bigger battles 2 parameters decide:
1. Which team has more and higher lvl players?
2. Which team manages to cast Crowd Control spells first?
Not definitive in this order of importance.