alb zerg renaris (22:20)25th june 2004

Tuppe

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Alyssania said:
Well just got hit by his pbaoe for 1395 and oneshotted me with fully buffed and having all resists maxed. So yeah no wonder he can get few deathspam. That with long stun/insta stun/insta mezz and moc. They made real hard for mids to defend keeps these days.

Anyone remember what they said when took away aoe stun from albs??? If I heard it right pbaoe and aoe stun was way too overpowered in the same realm. Little after that mids got the pbaoe. :)


well, in same class, not same realm.
mids was last realm who got pbaeo, meantime albs/hibs had alott fun whit it, if you remember?


how is 3 stealther in albs equal comparing other realms 2? cc, speed ablas etc etc.
how is albs speccable af buff what stack and other realms dont have (hunter speccable af buff?)?
demezz chant?
bolt range aemezz?
necro shade mode putting groundtarget to lord room for gtaeo/volley/trebs?
etc etc etc etc
 

Alyssania

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Well the reason they said was overpowered in same realm sure it was overpowered in same class even more but still. Tryed to look the patch notes without luck yesterday. And im not talking about the spells/skills different realm have compared to other since you got stuck to the stun thingie. I was pbaoed 1 time and I was dead with fully buffed almost capped resists. One freeking shot and im out. Not seeing mini with stealth/sorc with bolt range aoe mezz/necro in shade form or speccable af buff doing that. No reason for me to start listing what I think is little too much in midgard. You guys know it already since 90% of you abuse it everyday just like every other realm does. Its not the stun im whining since seems mids dont even need it anymore. ;)
 

Daedalus

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I thought that it was a fun, fair and square fight. It took us some time but in the end we did regain our keep back.

It's always been that that way, if a keep's being defended then those attacking will die a lot and those defending will gain a lot of kills. A shame that the starter of this thread thinks that he's so uber because, as said, he can use a certain design flaw (but not a technical flaw, mind! GoA will tell that it's working as intended :kissit: ) to kill a lot of people by only having to spam one button.

Oh well, it was a good fight.
 

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Don't bother directing flames at me here, I didn't make the thread and never claimed to be skilled or use more than one button.

Though we had quite many fights also in open, outside Excal, and of course tower and lord fights too. Mostly used one button of course, I got it qbinded on C. Sometimes I use other button, that's my str/con debuff. I also used my moc button 4 times last night, it gives C button little boost :)
 

DaggerElivager

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Daedalus said:
I thought that it was a fun, fair and square fight. It took us some time but in the end we did regain our keep back.

It's always been that that way, if a keep's being defended then those attacking will die a lot and those defending will gain a lot of kills. A shame that the starter of this thread thinks that he's so uber because, as said, he can use a certain design flaw (but not a technical flaw, mind! GoA will tell that it's working as intended :kissit: ) to kill a lot of people by only having to spam one button.

Oh well, it was a good fight.


erm the starter wasnt the one who was doing the killing :) but its always been easier for defenders to get kills against attackers using pbaoe etc.
 

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Tuppe said:
how is 3 stealther in albs equal comparing other realms 2? cc, speed ablas etc etc.

how is albs speccable af buff what stack and other realms dont have (hunter speccable af buff?)?
demezz chant?
bolt range aemezz?
necro shade mode putting groundtarget to lord room for gtaeo/volley/trebs?
etc etc etc etc

insta root (ichor of the deep RA), insta stun, castable stun, insta mezz, 3 determination-classes, highest WS class, free 2H on EVERYONE, celerity, highest delve PBAE, intercepting pet, bonedancers, main-mezzer is chain and access to insta-heals, concentration based end-regen, buffing and buff-shearing not on primary healer-class, etc etc

Your point is mooth, and you're complaining about Mids not having PBAE while you didnt play actively Midgard during that era (you played Hib/Excal during that)
 

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Puppet said:
insta root (ichor of the deep RA), insta stun, castable stun, insta mezz, 3 determination-classes, highest WS class, free 2H on EVERYONE, celerity, highest delve PBAE, intercepting pet, bonedancers, main-mezzer is chain and access to insta-heals, concentration based end-regen, buffing and buff-shearing not on primary healer-class, etc etc

Your point is mooth, and you're complaining about Mids not having PBAE while you didnt play actively Midgard during that era (you played Hib/Excal during that)
Well Mid have the Thane aswell, so they need all the fluff they can get to survive all thanes out there. Mjölnir in Malmö is a good example that mid need good cc :D
 

Tuppe

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Puppet said:
Your point is mooth, and you're complaining about Mids not having PBAE while you didnt play actively Midgard during that era (you played Hib/Excal during that)


? you mean i was playing excal/hib? hmm personally have played only pryd/mids from beta, few lowbie chars in excal alb and hibs (hibs deleted and made alb)
nothing over lvl 30.

classes/realm is not balanced via ra:s, even when albs looking like that.
freee 2h? spear hunter dont have free 1h.
sm need spec higher to best pbaeo, why not same time best?

animist?
pbt in common spec line?
pbaeo and stun + pets?
dont hibs hae insta heals?
group purges?
baod?
insta amnesia?
druids have pet?
class who can block all arrows whit spell (wv)
and so on
 

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Tuppe said:
well, in same class, not same realm.
mids was last realm who got pbaeo, meantime albs/hibs had alott fun whit it, if you remember?


how is 3 stealther in albs equal comparing other realms 2? cc, speed ablas etc etc.
how is albs speccable af buff what stack and other realms dont have (hunter speccable af buff?)?
demezz chant?
bolt range aemezz?
necro shade mode putting groundtarget to lord room for gtaeo/volley/trebs?
etc etc etc etc

Hahahahahaha.

It's amazing how ridiculous mid is compared to alb.Multiply your list by 4-5 things and you get midgard.You missed some things out puppet xD
 

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For the record and for people who only blindly look at RP count as an indicator, Belo is the best SM on the server and always has been.

Had some fun last night and it was good to see so many old friends out. Got killed a few times and had a good giggle with DoTs and diseases and sending Hudson in to cause merry havoc with random peeps.

Got to wave to a few old friends and naturally they did their best to pepper me with arrows, bolt me, pbae me, stun me, mez me, slice dice 'n' kill me.

Got to wave to Krill and a few others.

Was fun :)

Albs need to stop complaining about what this side doesn't have though and get down to business with the tools Alb does have.
 

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Moriad and belorfyn do a good job yeah, i hope they release another movie i thought they did a decent keep one which i saw a while ago.Give another movie belorfyn. :p
 

Balbor

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only comeback mids ever offer is overpowered Mincer and Spec AF lol. Spec AF doesn't seem to do much at stopping mid tank groups really. And when filling the group role done by Bards and Skalds Mincers don't have any over powered abilities. FFS they have the worst AOE mezz in the game. Head to Head both bards and skalds will drop a mincer out of speed long before they get into range. No one cares about stealthers killing stealthers, pritty much all of them have BBs and hang around MGs, PKs and the pourly designed road to Excal.
 

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as belo stated dont point the whines at him it was me who posted this thread, i thought it was funny to see happen as im never around when it does, if all ur gonna do is whine about it then dont say anything atall.
 

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Sycho said:
Moriad and belorfyn do a good job yeah, i hope they release another movie i thought they did a decent keep one which i saw a while ago.Give another movie belorfyn.

Hasn't been much to film, would have to be something very special since we run with FG these days. Easier to find material for films when you run with only half a group or so since you get to fight against odds more often :)
And Moriad hasn't got Fraps to work well with ToA :(

I've been trying to work little with our old material from last christmas when I respecced to pbae spec until ToA, and we ran with groups of 2-5 people back then. Got some funny footage from there but I've been working on that movie for months already (well, I should really say that for months I have been not working on it :)) so dunno if it's ever coming or not :)
 

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Coolan said:
as belo stated dont point the whines at him it was me who posted this thread, i thought it was funny to see happen as im never around when it does, if all ur gonna do is whine about it then dont say anything atall.
:fluffle:
Don't worry, we know you didn't mean it as us "pwning" anyone or so, and meant no harm :)
Just ignore those who don't understand it.
 

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DaggerElivager said:
erm the starter wasnt the one who was doing the killing :) but its always been easier for defenders to get kills against attackers using pbaoe etc.
Ah, you're right. I overlooked that. Sorry.
But why the hell did the started open a topic like this, then? It's just odd.

I thought that it was a nice fight. I'd rather attack a heavily defended keep which takes up to 2 hours pretty much, then zerging and getting zerged in Emain over and over again.

But, were you guys after the other strength relics, or was it a 'lets see how long we can keep a keep!' kind of raid? When you guys had all the strength relics we would take Arvakr and see how long we could defend it.
 

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Belorfyn said:
:fluffle:
Don't worry, we know you didn't mean it as us "pwning" anyone or so, and meant no harm :)
Just ignore those who don't understand it.

carp is the only one who understands it here :rolleyes:
 

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