Advise me !

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Wij

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I play mainly on Pryd/Mid but was thinking of starting an alt on Excal/Hib (don't wanna be Alb - too many of em.) What's a good fun class to play around with that isn't totally gimped if I ever get round to playing RvR with it ?

Jace, oh and Granny, I'm looking at youse in particular :)
 
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Aeiedil

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Nightshades, they aint gimped in PvE, honestly, I solo'd 3x orange and about 7x high yellow earlier before I got an orange add that killed me. Still people obviously know they are gimped *mumbles* (ns = fun in rvr, can kick ass in pve, but not liked in groups, and so when ungrouped and esp in lower levels suck)

Mana-specced Enchanters are literally a blast to play with, and are great for keep defense :)
 
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Novamir

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do not choose a ns if you want to get offers to group =)

classes which are fun in both pve and rvr: bard, hero, champion, any caster.

most stealthers will say that although the end product (rvr) is fun with a stealther, getting there is pretty much hell.

i play a hero which cant really solo, due to no stealth/speed/form of crowd control. there is no class in hib unfortunately which can be fairly easily levelled and then be uber in rvr ( minstrel for alb, skald for mid).

so, do u want to play a caster type with big nukes(eldritch, enchanter), a support/healer/crowd control(bard, mentalist), defensive melee(shield hero/shield champ) or offensive melee(LW champ/hero, CS hero)?
 
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Salazar

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Enchanter = best solo class PvE... Prolly the worst RvR- crowd control? What is that. So.. i advice if you want a caster type. Eldricht with enough lightspec or Mentalist.
 
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granny

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Originally posted by Novamir
there is no class in hib unfortunately which can be fairly easily levelled and then be uber in rvr ( minstrel for alb, skald for mid).

That's partly true...

Bards are great for both situations, not in their own right but becase everyone always wants bards with them whether it's PvE or RvR. We can barely solo a single blue past about lvl 30 and we get taken down by greens if we're on our own in RvR, but put us in a group (and trust me it's never a problem getting a group as a bard) and the entire group does better :)
 
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old.Mr Gnarf

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Lurikeen Large-wep/Valor champ of course :clap:

well, i think every class can be fun, if right specced .











--Milram--lurichamp lvl33 hib/excal
 
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Novamir

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yes i believe bards rock :) but dont really expect to be able to solo RvR (unless ur into ganking greys :p)

Bard + any class who can do damage = great pair for RvR.
 
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Kobold

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nope

classes which are fun in both pve and rvr: bard, hero, champion, any caster.

nope, not bard, and PvE? right it's funt to stand there bang a drum :p

yes i believe bards rock but dont really expect to be able to solo RvR (unless ur into ganking greys )

sorry m8, but bards are fun for everyone xept the bard himself!

Bard + any class who can do damage = great pair for RvR.

true....but still damn boring for the bard :p


I think you know what I think about bards now, after played one until 41. And it's DAMN boring. all wants you in groups and you're popular...but it is DEADLY boring to be in good groups, cause you only stand there banging on drum, none even notice if you're afk the whole damn time......talking from experience. And I get pissed off when I see the friggin mid skald who is warrior class with the same spells (almost) Also minstrels in alb are far better than bards.

I just say...give a big hail to the few high bards that is still out there doing everybody xept them selves a favour ;)

btw: my lvl 41 bard is deleted...he's useless anywayz, can't even solo a green warrior class :(
 
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<Harle>

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after seeing Miss solo even con warrior-classes in RvR i wonder if you probably didn't play your Bard to the full of his potential...
 
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granny

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Originally posted by Eternal[EW]
I think you know what I think about bards now, after played one until 41. And it's DAMN boring. all wants you in groups and you're popular...but it is DEADLY boring to be in good groups, cause you only stand there banging on drum, none even notice if you're afk the whole damn time......talking from experience. And I get pissed off when I see the friggin mid skald who is warrior class with the same spells (almost) Also minstrels in alb are far better than bards.

There's a solution to that - get your group to change to lower-level BaF'ing mobs. At lvl 41 try getting into non-PBAOE EZ groups, constant need for fast mez'ing, keeps a bard on their toes ;)

Other than that yeah, it can be dull as buggery being the bard in a group taking on high-level non-BaFing mobs, which is one of the reasons I haven't played for a couple of weeks, I was starting to go insane standing around watching people killing pooka after pooka after pooka :/
 
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Jace

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Well Wij me ole m8 I can only talk from personal experience with the chars I've played . . .

Hero

A great tanking option if you have loads of primal bashing urges like me :) Shield Hero is most popular at high lvls and is usually the main tank whilst Large Weapon or Cletic Spear dishes out allot of damage relagating them to 2nd tank usually. RvR relies totally on grouping, there is no solo option with a Hero.

Nightshade

An appealing class in principle but had I known just how much people hate to group with them I doubt I'd have bothered. Very tough class to play well and a nightmare to lvl as they have no clearly defined group role. It's also easy to pull too much aggro in a group so you have to be really on the ball.

Also a nightmare in RvR until you're high lvl, takes a huge amount of patience. That said stealthing an invader then opening up on them with Perforate Artery then Creeping Death (nice stun) is sweet :)

Mentalist

Gave up after being bombarded with more spell choices than I've had hot dinner :)

I havent played a Ranger and Hib is swimming in them but they are very handy in RvR and can solo at ridiculous lvls, e.g. at lvl 41 my Shade can make about .2 of a bub in 1 hour soloing (not viable) whereas I've heard Rangers saying they can get 1 bub every 90 minutes at lvl 45!

Hope this helps.
 
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old.Tzeentch

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The only two classes that are probably 90% fixed (a lot more than most classes in all the realms) - Mentalist and Hero.

Please don't go LW Hero.
Please don't become a Mentalism specced Ment.

:)
 
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Aeiedil

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imo nightshades are pretty much fixed in the more recent patches, maybe over-fixed in 1.48 due to still having the stealthed 1-shot :D yay for me :)
 
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obacono

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Chanters rock in the PvE world - I can solo reds with ease (with alot of DT though) Orange are my bread and butter.

RvR seems to be ok - I was earning some points at level 28 - not really been back and am now lvl 33 so should be more fun.

Not to bad in groups either, however pbaoe at higher levels is a major benefit (which I only have at low level, as I spec'd in light)

I deal an average of 200 - 250 damage on purple mobs and average 300+ dmg on orange mobs (so have to be careful when solo - you don't want to take the aggro from the pet!)

I sometimes wish I'd gone for the pbaoe like I planned as it would have been great just now at these levels - but the solo aspect was a nightmare for mana spec.

I like the social aspect, and you often find me hanging around with milram and gallao kicking arse. Just started trying to find groups in the mines - and so far have had an allround good experience.


Oh and I also have an tank on pred alb - boring as hell now, hate the one trick wonder - however, I miss all the people I used to group with regular (who are all now in their mid 40's).
 
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Aeiedil

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obacono, i found a mana chanter easier than light. send in pet to pull 6-12 green\blues, then PBAOE, QC PBAOE, nice exp tyvm :)
 
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old.Thanatlos

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I usually try and make sure pet does enough damage first so I can kill them with 2 mana ripples..
Very nasty if 1 or 2 of them survive though :(
 
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Kobold

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yeh, light sux, mana roxx0000rz :D :D

used that tactics on blackthorns, tree orange/yellows at same time...NICE...luv to be suicide mage :p
 

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