ADSL

[old.Alex^]

Yo all

Seeing as I can't get a Cable Modem round by my area, I'm thinkin of gettin ADSL, what I wana know is

Is it any good for £40 a month

What transfer speeds does it get

What's it like in general

and, most importantly, whats it like for games?

Thanks alot

Alex

 

[old.[RaveN]DaGoD]

GO HERE

If you need help picking an ISP go here - http://www.broadband-help.com/home.asp (it'll tell you every thing you want to know) I recommend you don't get it now and just wait for it to come down (BT won't bring it down but other isp's will) I have seen some for 40 connect and 20 quid a month but it ain't in my area so I'm going to wait till next year GL on finding a good ISP (you'll need it)

 

[Ono]

I am with BTOpenworld.

-Its definitely worth the £40 a month. My phone bills alone on 56k were £80 pm before.

-Transfers on downloading are about 50-60 kbps.

-Pings for Counterstrike on BW servers are between 40-80ms
depending on time of day. Similar for Q3.

-ICQ is fine, Napster is fine, Netmeeting with Vid Cams and/or via voice is fine. BT may block this in the future though.

-There are a few problems. The well documented non-IP address recycling (but this has never affected me) and also I sometimes have problems sending mail on my BTInternet account.

The biggest problems my mates have had with BTOW is GETTING THE FCKING INSTALLED IN THE FIRST PLACE! If you are an existing ISDN or HH user then you are Fcked until your contract expires. Even then there is the loooooooong wait for them to get round to you and the distance factor from your local exchange.



I was lucky and therefore V Happy.

 

[old.Alex^]

btw, do you have to keep your old phone line, and pay the line rental so its not £40 its more around £50?

 

[Ono]

YEP.

 

[ironfist]

hey

Hey Alex
Where are you located ?
that has a big bearing on what you can get ?

 

[old.Alex^]

I live in liverpool, I want cable cause its cheaper etc, but I live in a awkward place, me mate down the road has it, but i dont think they do it my mine, if you have to keep your old phone line with adsl i don't think i'll arse casue thats like £50, humm, what bout isdn......?

:|

 

[old.[RaveN]DaGoD]

Ha Liverpool I live on the Wirral the place next to you

 

[old.Alex^]

heh, you know southport college, you go there, or are you like 50 years old and called "ron" ?

I live in maghull, but have to hike all the way to southport everyday

shit, got wirrel confused with wigan, but i still know what yer meen, cause theres a wigan bus right by the college, wirrels over the water yes?



[Edited by Alex^ on 15-11-00 at 23:45]

 

[old.logic7]

DAAAYUM!!!! You guys pay that much for DSL???!!! Shit! I pay $35USD for my Cable service (Maxed out at almost 300K/sec when dl/ing Linux-Mandrake 7.2 ISO's) and my buddies pay $40 from http://www.ameritech.net . Why the hell is it so expensive over there?

 

[ironfist]

Short answer BT
Long answer BT


One company
ONE MASSIVE PAIN IN THE AR*E

 

[old.logic7]

BT = British Telcom, or something like that?

You're saying that there's no one else offering DSL/Cable service in the entire country???


I'd say it's time for a revolt.

 

[Ono]

Logic mate, you just don't know how lucky you guys are in the States.

Over here BT controls the entire Telecoms networks and all other DSL providers have to go through them.(except the really high end business ones).BT know they are a monopoly and they treat us with contempt coz they know we can't do F-all about it.

Get this, BT actually took over a year and half doing trials on DSL here AND it still has problems!

To top it all off, we are restricted to 512 kps download and 256 kps upload at the moment too.

On the cable side, we do have some companies but their coverage in UK is very low and they are not really selling the service too hard.

 

[stu]

BT doesn't control the entire Telecoms networks, there are networks owned by NTL and Telewest. BT controls the traditional copper wire backbone, but that's largely due to its history as a public company.

NTL and Telewest actually have pretty impressive coverage in most areas outside of London, and when they finally merge (which will happen soon, trust me,) you'll see it expanding exponentially.

The reason they aren't selling their service hard is because they know that if they overload the network customers will get a crap service, and as a result they will have to spend an awful lot of money all at once retroactively fixing the problems. Takeup for cable modems is pretty fierce without marketing - better to stack them on at a manageable rate and fix anticipated problems as they appear.

 

[luap]

Adsl is finally in. After a 3 month ordering wait and weeks of having it installed but not working because BT screwed up, it's working!

My adsl is 2mb NoNat, 20:1 business line.

As an idea, 100-230k/s downloads. Depends where.
Dos ping to http://www.barrysworld.com 20ms
UT ping to UT servers in general is about 7 to 100. depends where too.

Things download faster than my TB 1gig can install them

 

[old.logic7]

Once I got Cable installed, I had vowed to never go back to a modem again. I have all of my machines networked to it (3xWin98, 1 Linux, 1 Linux PPC, 1 BSD, 1 MacOS) with a Linux box as the proxy. For some reason, when I had a Win98 machine as the proxy, everything ran slower than it does now with the Linux proxy...