About the dragonraid.

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old.Niljindil

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Hiya, i have all the rules etc that we came up with on our different meetings up for grabs by anyone now at http://dragonraid.cjb.net

The time will not be revealed on this public boards:)p on you evul albs) as i dont want dagda empty when we die from/kill the evil monster.

Anyway, spam your guild officers with info about the date and time, as at least one in your guild *should* know(unless i have missed anyone in which case im horribly sorry :().

So anyway, meet ya'll in game, made a new thread so everyone would read(i know most ppl wont look on page 2 on a 50 reply thread ;) ).
 
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Bedroc the Hero

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Nice organization! This is very well prepared. Good work, well done!! You deserve to succeed.


One question though, Are you certain that tanks lvl 45,46,47 is 100% useless against the dragon? Is the magic limit at 48?

Asking as you exclude all but lvl 48+ from a reward lottery, should there be one.

This is not a whine, just a question on why this limit is chosen.

I know an item is capped if it cons orange. Well dragon drops con orange to lvl 48 and 49 as well. Most of the lvl 45-47 ppl will get lvl 50 before long.
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by Bedroc the Hero
Nice organization! This is very well prepared. Good work, well done!!


One question though, Are you certain that tanks lvl 45,46,47 is 100% useless against the dragon? Is the magic limit at 48?

Asking as you exclude all but lvl 48+ from a reward lottery, should there be one.

This is not a whine, just a question on why this limit is chosen.

I know an item is capped if it cons orange. Well dragon drops con orange to lvl 48 and 49 as well. Most of the lvl 45-47 ppl will get lvl 50 before long.

Please note, that the adds and also the dragon will drop normal sheeroe loot, these items will be up for grabs by anyone, also note the rules in the first chat log, the rules are that you may only enter the lottery for ONE item, regardless of what level you are, your level only matter in which KIND of items you can choose.

Additionally, i will be handing out about 30 or so weewere drops after the raid, i have been soloing/powereleveling guildmates and friends in corus for quite some time and my vault is full and i had to destroy some gear cuz i was encumbered :(

But anyway, the 48+ is only for the dragon loot, the ones that cant be dropped by other mobs in sheeroe, according to raids done on the US the dragon drops like half dragon loot and half normal sheeroe loot, so there will only be like 5!!! items that the 48+ have the privilieges to lotto for.. thats the reason, the chances are small as it is that anyone will get a dragon item, have to draw a line, and at the first meeting we agreed on 48+.

Edit: and no, the 48+ line isnt drawn because lvl 47 and below are useless, its simply drawn because since there will be so few items, i dont want every single level 50 hero whine at me because that lvl 45 hero got *the* spear(disclaimer: thats an example, im not saying heros whine more or anything :p just so you know) but bear with me here, i have to draw a line somewhere, as much as id like every single hib to be in full dragongear, that just aint possible :(
 
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<Harle>

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Just a short question on the tactics:
Everyone that is going to do *anything* against the dragon itself
MUST be UNgrouped, this is due to the fact that we dont want any agro on the ressers.

MY question now is: can two (or more) tanks remain grouped, so they can set /guard on each other? Since they are (should be) close together there's no problem with someone else getting aggro, besides those allready in melee with the dragon anyway.
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by &lt;Harle&gt;
MY question now is: can two (or more) tanks remain grouped, so they can set /guard on each other? Since they are (should be) close together there's no problem with someone else getting aggro, besides those allready in melee with the dragon anyway.

Yes there is a problem, if one of you die, and a resser res you, the resser will get a teeni bit agro, and sooner or later this could result in an aoe on the ressers.. the plan is perfect if EVERYONE follows the rules without question! :)

the ressers can NOT get agro, and if they cant get that, we cant fail!

Edit: the rules are there for a reason, dont question them unless you think you know something that i didnt think of(harle up here is a good example ;) ), instead try to add or ask why i havent mentioned anything you feel should be there.
 
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old.Arnor

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Hope you manage to take down your ass-hard dragon :)

Best of wishes, and post screens :)
 
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old.Niljindil

Guest
Bump, everyone should know, spam your guilds about this :p
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by old.Arnor
Hope you manage to take down your ass-hard dragon :)

Best of wishes, and post screens :)

Thank you, most kind of you :)

And i will, dont worry ;)
 
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Armolas

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From the US attempt:

3) She does NOT argo arrow users. We had 10 rangers plucking away and she just took it. Unfortunatly it's not enough damage to actually take her out, but it helped. Also, if you damage buff Rangers, do it OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE (see point 1)

Rangers might be able to help out a bit more than just pulling adds outside the circle :)
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by Armolas
From the US attempt:



Rangers might be able to help out a bit more than just pulling adds outside the circle :)

Well, yes, but as noted it "wasnt enough to take her out" so we might as well ignore that, and seeing as there is talk about 30ish adds i need every single ranger to make sure those knights leave the tanks alone :)

Anyway, heres a simplified plan for those that are 2 lazy to click on the link.

All tanks degroup(important, res agro etc) and bash dragon.
Rangers pluck arrows into every single nondragon mob in clipping range :)
Casters nuke the nondragon mobs as they try to attack the rangers.
Ressers res.
Chanters Damage add.
Mentalists pot n hot.

No spells whatsoever inside the lair(thats why i want them rangers :)), not even bard songs or bubble, take it outside of the lair :)

Anyway, ill explain everything tomorrow, and please dont take the "rules" as any kind of insult to your class, i want to kill the bastard, and some of the rules are crucial for him not to spew aoes(especially the ranger pulling and tank ungrouped and ressers only res part).
 
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Tranquil-

Guest
Sounds very well planned, Niljindil. I'm an Alb, I won't be there, but I sure hope you can take out that mean, overpowered bug.
 
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Exiled

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Originally posted by Tranquil-
I'm an Alb, .

Go back to your alb boards then ;) :)fluffle: 's Tranquil) always nice to see support across realms :D
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by Tranquil-
mean, overpowered bug.

Thats *the* most accurate description of Cuuldurach ive ever seen.

The scary part is, that even how much we whine, he will still be able to kill any class any day of the week solo :( even WITHOUT a buffbot!

:eek:
 
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Tranquil-

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:p

/em screams: Then keep your greasy luri fingers off my Alb forum!
<with a "My precious-look" on his face>

edit: Yeah, he's probably got one uber buffer at your TK :)
 
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Exiled

Guest
Originally posted by old.Niljindil


Thats *the* most accurate description of Cuuldurach ive ever seen.

The scary part is, that even how much we whine, he will still be able to kill any class any day of the week solo :( even WITHOUT a buffbot!

:eek:

Yeh thats true, but think of the fun we could have if we can lead him into emain, maybe tylar could help there :)
 
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Exiled

Guest
Originally posted by Tranquil-
:p

/em screams: Then keep your greasy luri fingers off my Alb forum!
<with a "My precious-look" on his face>

my fingers might be small and slightly pinky, but they are NOT greasy :) /em :touch:'s Tranquils "forum" and runs off and hides in a gravestone
 
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thebinarysurfer

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missing link/teleport

Gee yes that blank page is such a comprehensive tactics briefing :p
One question - about the teleporting of people when he hits 10% or whatever it is - how the bloody hell are we gonna get around that - short of keeping a force in reserve (and if this has been covered in the tactics i apologise but they aint there :p )

Autarkis
46 Ranger
Officer of 'The Wyrding Way'
Excalibur Server
 
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Ortunga

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You need non magical weapons.

Only high levels can hit it.

Only I can make non magical weapons for high levels.

Unfortunatly I have better things to do on a sunday afternoon than sit at my pc WORKING.

People seem to have left it to the last minute to order weapons for the raid, I'm sorry but they just arent going to get done.
 
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old.Reno

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Originally posted by old.Niljindil


Yes there is a problem, if one of you die, and a resser res you, the resser will get a teeni bit agro, and sooner or later this could result in an aoe on the ressers.. the plan is perfect if EVERYONE follows the rules without question! :)

the ressers can NOT get agro, and if they cant get that, we cant fail!

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Tanks should be allowed to form two man groups to guard each other, if 1 dies the other is almost sure to follow soon.
Besides when 1 is dead and the other not, the dead one can always refuse to be rezzed unless they are both dead.

Danita
 
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old.Niljindil

Guest
Originally posted by old.Reno


Tanks should be allowed to form two man groups to guard each other, if 1 dies the other is almost sure to follow soon.
Besides when 1 is dead and the other not, the dead one can always refuse to be rezzed unless they are both dead.

Danita

the reason i dont want tanks to guard each other is...

1, all tanks dont have shield spec high enough to make a difference.

2, everyone will get resed faster if they are ungrouped which means higher firepower on the dragon which means tha he will die faster.

and if he dies faster, he has less chances to aoe, if any.


edit, one thing, several reports from different dragonraids have stated that he melees like a total wuss...and if he doesnt aoe, what do we need guard for then:confused:

edit2: another thing, if a tank refuses a res the mana will still be wasted, so if they do that they might instead of being resed make sure than maybe 5 or so ppl cant get a res cuz the ressers just went oom... its an extreme scenario i know, but nevertheless a valid point...
 
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saltymcpepper

Guest
just wonderin can i use a procing weapon if its far too high to proc cos my weapons are both the lvl 40 epic ones and i cant get a crafted one now
 
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old.Arnor

Guest
saltymcpepper: not that its any of my business and so on and so forth, and sorry to break it to ya, but isnt lvl 41 a tad low?
 
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saltymcpepper

Guest
im 43 now mate and im going to be on add patrol anyway
 
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gronk

Guest
have to say that it was a great raid on him... a shame that we falied on the last 5% or so...

thanks to Nil for organising it!

on a side note, LvL42 Rangers can't shoot the bitch :(

but hey, we nearly made it, if we had had more peeps he would have been dead ( even befor The Germans made it)
 
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old.Arnor

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k, well grats on lvl 43 then, and update your sig :p
 
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Faeldawn

Guest
We were SOOOOOOOO close ;0)


one thing tho......WHO WAS IN CHARGE?

We all knew Nilj was da boss, and his word was god. But there were A LOT of people barking orders.....i spent ages scrolling up my screen to find messages Nilj has given..i noted he was having to spam orders himself.

When i wanted a buff from a mage/caster i used the /whisper dialogue......this prevents the incessant yell spamming of "HoT NOW!!" and "DMG BUFF PLS!".plus i found druids/mages to be very obliging if you whisper your requests to them for buffing.

Neway, we'll get him next time im sure ;0)
 
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Gorguss

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Let's take all the might relics of the other realms! Then maby it would help against the dragon since it's all non-magical attacks anyway :) The Albs and Mids may not be too fond of it though..

Next time I'll even try to make it on time :p
Tried to make our way to the dragon alone but the glimmers are some real baf maniacs. Was doing well and almost reaching warshades until suddenly we got charged by 9 orange and yellow glimmers.

ownage ..
 

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