A whine about a Dusksinger & Lohamar.

[xajorkith]

What the pair of you did to me today was despicable, low, and completely against the CoC

As any high level exping hunter knows, the savage wyverns in Raumarik is one of the best places for Hunters to solo. Hunters don't get invites to exp groups and for Malmohus I need a 50 SM (which I don't have) before I am even considered.

So I'm quite happy sat in Raumarik killing the Wyverns I've been soloing there all week.

When I started pulling I saw no other expers.

After about 20 minutes I get a PM from Lohamar (50) that I have to "move on", he was power levelling his very low BB on the other side, 30 seconds later I get a PM from his guild mate Dusksinger (50) who is power levelling his very low level BB with him "move on".

Now we all know that no one has the right to claim camp spots and attempting to do so is against the CoC.

So I stayed, as I had a right to do so, there are few safe places for a 46 hunter to exp.

So Lohamar & Dusksinger then pretend to be different groups and complain to my GM, my GM asks me to move on.... but I don't want to be forced to move on and I don't want my GM to get further spam from them because of me, so I had no option other than to quit "White Rose" and its mighty Alliance.

I never said a single word to them, no emotes, I never pulled their mobs, I treated them as I would want to be treated.

The two bullies then killed anything I pulled; they stood where I stood preventing me exping after several minutes without any retaliation on my part I log.

Hunters have such a hard time exping as it is, not only has the Lair group gone, regular exp groups have gone too but now regular solo'ers have to move on for BB expers, what is DAoC coming to?

These two are a disgrace to Midgard to the FoM alliance and to their guild.

[17:55:30] @@Lohamar says, "cor u wanna talk to an officer of my guild as we seem to be attacking your mobs"
[17:55:37] @@Lohamar says, "tell ya what message lohamar and have a word"


There are millions of places for 50's to level their BB's why hassle me?

Looking for a new Guild

 

[hellraisermk2]

That's absolutely disgraceful. I wouldn't worry about leaving WR if the Gm/ officers wouldn't take your word, a long standing member, over these two clowns.

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Lohamar and Duskisinger used to be in our guild, we had a huge seperation and they went with the others. I'm incredibly surprised with their behavior, not at all like either of them.

I dont think its breaking the CoC at all however it is pretty disgraceful - especially loh abusing his officership by claiming you could report him to himself.

One thing that did confuse me, why did you leave your guild? Did they offer you no option after you wouldnt 'move on'?

 

[Tasans]

Attacking other peoples mobs and stealing pulls can be considered as harrasment fyi.

 

[ratpoison]

ok lets tell the real story now

Lohamar here and if he thought i do not check the forums and no one would set the story straight well heres the story.

ffirst off me and dusksinger where not grouped just there hunting drops her on one side me on other not a guild thing not a planned thing i turned up she was there.

Now i was minding my own buisness hunting at raum entrance and i saw the mobs behind the very front savage wyverns i thought nothin of it he was hunting the ones just inside i was ok with that didn't bother me. What did bother me is when i saw the mobs i was pullin going off out back i could see his char figure so ovbviously he could see mine i messaged him a one off he never replied now when an instant bolt hits a mob and the mob goes off elsewhere somthin wrong with that then i was waiting some time and when one popped it ran off out back so i politely spoke to his GM she had a word he obviously ignored it. so after asking over and over it was still happening he was doing the same to dusk so all we did was give him a taste of his own medicine needless. glad he posted shows that some people won't put up with people taking the mobs they have already hit. i was patiant he just pushed me way to far. these were mobs right in front of my face use an instant DD then he would purposely shoot it so do not whine when you do not respect the people hunting there all u had to do was ask dusk even told you that but no not a word from you

I also have a hunter i know how hard it is to lvl but i don't go stealing peoples mob because of it i respect people who are hunting somewhere if there lvling a BB or not.

 

[Whisperess]

And when you completely ruined the xp for 2 shadowblades, trying to XP in Darkness Falls, just 'cause you had to farm emeralds at the exact spot we were at is accetable, eh Xajorkith?

Sitting down to rest close enough to their spawn so you'd have a reason to excuse yourself ( "they attacked me!" ).

And when PMing you asking why you stumbled in on 'our' camp to pull away, you promptly replied ( and I quote ):

"look mate, just fuck off"

also calling me a fuckwit among other pleasant things.

No sir, I'd probably take Lohamars version of the story as true, as I hold you in no regard whatsoever when it comes to either 'camps' or the truth.

 

[Driwen]

btw there is an icestrider chiller+frostweaver camp just near wyvers, doable at same level only you need crush arrows(thrust is neutral to them). So go to the other side of the wyvern camp and follow the zonewall for 1 minute north. Then you should stumble on them, I havent exped there much but I dont think there is anyone there.

Also a critshot (which all hunters pull with) takes 3 to 4 seconds to draw, so unless you pulled mobs far away from you. He could hardly time that you pulled and then take the mob over, unless he was rapid firing normal shoots which takes 1 to 2 seconds. But then I dont know wether one shoot would take agro over the instant dd. But imo he should have left there as he was the last one to join the spot and there were apperently not enough mobs around to share between 3 people.

 

[Mundokar]

It can be a misunderstanding, critshots (as runemaster bolts) take a long time to go off. Has anyone considered this option ?

 

[xajorkith]

Re: ok lets tell the real story now

I posted in here so you could reply, people don’t hide in BW….

A critshot takes 3 seconds to pull off (as you know as you have a Hunter). It is quite conceivable that my Crit which I have waited for, struck after your DD. There is nothing I can do about that and I apologise if that’s what happened. I don’t know which Wyverns you are pulling as I was too far from you, with buildings and a wall in the way.

You should have at least given me the benefit of the doubt before under taking your cruel malicious antics.

I never hit any mob that you or duskwave were engaged with, I never intentionally pulled any mob you DD'd. I would never do that. Gods honest truth.

What you two did to me, by killing every single mob I pulled was spiteful and I didn't deserve it.

 

[osy]

kids soap opera.

 

[herjulf]

Well first off all it is actually official in s statement from (grab bag) "MYTHIC" that it is ok to steal other peoples camped mobs, and areas.

Intentionally pulling a mob already engaged is harassment though if it occurs more then once.
However pulling from the same spawn area is quite within the CoC.

What it is in RL though is another question, it is kinda lame in my world to destroy for other ppl exping, to for example lvl BB´s, however i feel it is a matter of who were there first.
(spindelhalla wiping BB powerlvlsers in mind)

I only post a reflection here i dont have the stamina atm to locate the link, all i know is that it is one of the latest grab bags.

Imo the guildleader that told u to move on need to overlook his priorities. For what i can understand u had been there for a while anyways.
And a 50 guy lvling his BB have many places to go, for example pharm the windwepts and turn up with a lucky BOI perhaps.

U were imo right to leave whatever the case, hope u find a new home.

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by xajorkith

These two are a disgrace to Midgard to the FoM alliance and to their guild.

Don't you think this is a bit overreacting? Judging from what others have posted your no saint yourself.

I have played with Dusksinger many times, and surely you must have pissed him off, and to be frank I don't think your telling the hole truth. Loggs are fine, but easy to pick out parts that doesn't tell all.

...and about lvling BB. I really don't see the difference between solo XP or Xping a BB as long as it does not ruin good XP places for grp's (spindel). There are many places you can XP solo or with a BB. Having said that I think I would have picked other mobs for pwl BB as the XP from the mobs in question imo sux.

 

[Vell]

I doubt Xajorkith's story is the entire truth. I doubt Lohamar's story is the entire truth also.

Regardless of what happened, it was incredibly childish for both Dusksinger and Lohamar to start whacking on every mob Xajorkith pulled. I am very surprised that Dusksinger would take such an action, not at all suprised that Lohamar would. It was also incredibly childish for Xajorkith to make this thread.

Lohamar - if you feel that Xajorkith was hitting mobs you had already pulled, report him to GOA via rightnow (when it's back up).
Xajorkith - if you feel that Lohamar and Dusksinger were hitting mobs you had already pulled, report them to GOA via Rightnow (when it's back up).

Resorting to childish antics is just...well...childish.

 

[evilknight]

I dunno what to belive here, but one of the sides is lying.
It will be Xajorkith words against Lohamar/Dusksingers words.
Hard to prove anything then. Hope you guys can sort it out between yourself


Hmm, about the hunter :

The hunter can draw his bow without a target, and release the shot when he wants(aka, xajorkith can shoot mobs right after the instant DD is used)

AND it's not a crit shot anymore after the DD is used, it's a normal shot.

Xajorkith, if you want grp, start one yourself. best way for hunters and SBs if they want a grp

Peace
Edardof

 

[Kallio]

Talking about childish... You were wrong, and you had to come to cry here cause everyone else thought that you were mistaken?

I dont believe you, especially when you start to blaim people and call them a disgrace. Just let it be, will be a lot easier.

Like someone said, There´s only your word against Dusk´s and Lohamar´s. Isnt it kinda futile to make this whole thread?

 

[xajorkith]

Just to clarify a few points before putting a close to it.:
<BlitheringIdiot>
I left WR so that Lohamar and Dusksinger would no longer keep spamming my GM Ladonna, Ladonna could then say, “It’s not my problem he’s not in WR”

< driwen + Mundokar>
I agree, it was my Critshots going off either before or after or at the same time as the DD, Critshot does more damage than DD so I get the pull.

< herjulf>
When I wrote CoC I actually meant the Grab bag that you referred to:
http://www.camelotherald.com/more/985.shtml

<Runolaz + Vell >
To be honest with you I think Dusksinger was just cajoled to attack all my stuff by Lohamar; it was Lohamar doing the majority of the talking.
Good point, the logs will show I was clearly harassed for some time; I shall fire of an email in the next couple of days.
Lohamar, Dusksinger and I never chatted in DAoC, the only way I could get to talk to him was via BW hence the post.

<Evilknight>
The only thing disputed was whether I intentionally pulled or accidentally pulled the same mob as him. Lohamar (to his credit) never disputed killing all my mobs, and meleing to death everything I attacked.

As far as I see it, Lohamar wanted the spot for himself, the spawn rate was slow, we both went for same mob, I got it, Lohamar completely over reacted pm’d everybody and meled everything I pulled to “teach me a lesson”. I got pissed off and wrote whine thread so Lohamar could reply.

Moral of the story: have logs, have screenshots have video capture, report to rightnow.

Case closed.

 

[ratpoison]

finishing

first off i sent you a message which was civil which you ignored and will also be in chat log all you had to do was ask and somthin could of been sorted out me and dusk both said somthin along the lines of that but u just kept quiet a simple message that is all is that to hard and u could of messaged me in game and i would of replied and if u thought i wouldn't why didn't you even make the effort to try ??? plz answer me this

 

[dusksinger]

Well since you want to take this here its ok. I feel forced to make my reply here and my viev of the things since you obviously, once more one might say, doesnt have the courage to go straight to me ( or Lohamar ).

I had been at Rauma Wyverns for about 2 hours lvl my healer, Lohamar Pm` me asking if it was ok taking one side lvl`ing his bb. Np.
After about 30-45 mins he says someone is pulling his pull away. I ask after 3 -5 of my pulls if its still going on. Yes it is he says and then also if it continues he will talk to the GM ( Ladonna )
Again after some pulls I ask if he has done so. Yes he has and Ladonna should have said something like he will ask his member to move away.
Then my pulls are getting grabbed. I Pm YOU saying This place is actually already in use by 2 grps m8. I get no reply but grabbing my pull continues.
Then I pm Ladonna telling her and also tells her I know Lohamar already have talked to him so there is no secret or in any way any kind of untold secrets as you imply.
Ladonna tells me he will ask you to move from the spot. My last words to Ladonna is " all it takes is just asking if it is ok"
I am pretty sure most of those who knows me will tell you that I hardly ever had said no to sharing or give room for others.
But you couldnt even ask and you did not at all reply but kept on pulling.
I do think normal behavior is to ask those already at any spot where ever it is, regardless of whom they are and lvl " would you mind me pulling ? or is it ok if I take some ? But you didnt and didnt reply to Pm and didnt even respond to you Gm who you also could have asked to talk with us if it was too much trouble for you to go directly to Lohamar or me.
After a while I got pi.... and I suggested that maybe some of your own medicine would help you to understand. Then we went over and killed what you pulled and after 10 mins we left you again.
Yes it was childish and I am not too proud of it but it seems you understood it. But the lesson here is you get what you give and you didnt even give a "Oh I am sry I pulled your mobs 30 times I didnt noticed your Pm or that you were there. Could you 2 move your butt to somewhere else cuz I want this place ?".
If you have left your guild that is your choice, dont try to blame others for that or come around with silly excuses for "saving" Ladonna. I am pretty sure he can answer for himself if he thinks it is getting too much.
Honestly, and I am sorry if you feel hit by it, I feel you started this and now want to bring it everywhere to make some justification of yourself.
Well its then allright, just remember that there is several sides of it. And, needless of cause to tell, took screenies of what we said while we were pulling your mobs. Just to get it right if so needed.

 

[Vell]

Originally posted by Vell

Lohamar & DUsksinger - if you feel that Xajorkith was hitting mobs you had already pulled, report him to GOA via rightnow (when it's back up).
Xajorkith - if you feel that Lohamar and Dusksinger were hitting mobs you had already pulled, report them to GOA via Rightnow (when it's back up).

Can we finish this and close the thread now? Lets face it, it only does harm to both parties involved, and none of you are going to be better of for it.

All of you need a good slapping, imo

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Except me of course.

 

[Slip Slipurson]

Hmm not to take anybodys side or anything but plz drop the bluecons and start PLing on some real mobs... leveling a BB on wyverns is hardly any use, if u have SI try around hagall (scrats and skogsra's) if no SI use vanern or malmo, but i am in no position to tell ppl where to XP but just saying there are much much much better spots.
As for lomahar saying he hunted drops...(or have i missed something) what drops ? the wyvs drop a skin every 10-12 kill or smth... and afaik they have not been itemized in 1.62 (i could be wrong tho).

as for the who pulled whos mobs i wont say anything, as i was not there...

xping as a hunter in icestriders is not that good since they have some freezespell... not sure if it is ranged tho, but if it is it will interupt the hunter quite often

well i guess in a way i tok xajs side but still beeing 2 lvl 50 pling on blueconcamp (wich i can clear with my lvl 45 BD solo) is as i said not even worth the conloss on the weaps

 

[evilknight]

The mobs in Yggdra drop ROG weapons now

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Slip Slipurson

xping as a hunter in icestriders is not that good since they have some freezespell... not sure if it is ranged tho, but if it is it will interupt the hunter quite often

it interupts the hunter just as often as the proc of the wyverns does . Besides the damage of the icestriders is more predictable as they dont have a 160 damage doing proc which might happen 0 times or 4 times in a pull .

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

I popped to raum to level my ickle bot a bit, I did those bear things further Id, mostly orange.

Also wyvens do drop plenty of items, killed about 20 of those before I moved on and got 6 lvl46-49 ROG items.

 

[etcetra]

Well, i think this is all an missunderstanding.
Okey, im in the same guild as Xajor - and he is not the person that "steals" spots.

And on a sidenote, PL'ing bots there any good?
Got a 41 bot i cba getting to 50 oo. :x

 

[Driwen]

I would think that if you are only interested in loot, thrust weak (slash resistant i believe) and yellow conning isnt the best mob to pl on .

 

[punj]

The mobs in Yggdra drop ROG weapons now

but they are talking about rauma afaik ^^

 

[evilknight]

Oops, I ment Rauma