A Ranger Specific Deficiency? Or is The Game Just Bugged?

[old.Charonel]

ok, since i havent specced stealth yet (my plan is going fine, i actually begin speccing it next level) i hadnt really noticed this, but today i did, and i did a bit of testing too, anyway heregoes:

Rangers: can they ever run while stealthed? or are we relegated to a VERY slow walk?

basically both me, and another ranger were having a chat in guild that consisted of him asking me if rangers could ever run stealthed and at what spec they could do it. but i found myself unable to answer, you see i remembered being able to run whilst stealthed as a stalker (for those not knowledgeble about hib, pre lvl 5 class that changes into either a ranger of shade) and my shade (retired, but reached lvl 12 with 7 stealth) could run just fine, sure it was slow but that's what you expect), so, i did a little test or two.

test 1)

Encumberance, i thought it may be down to the huge weight of arrows we carry, but after dumping all weight and stealthing, i was still only walking, so it's not down to encumberance.

test 2)

Race Difference, i went on one of the french servers and tested this by making both male and female luri's, since my shade had been a female luri and my ranger was a male one this was a valid test, however, BOTH lvl 1 stalkers could run just fine.


anyway, what it boils down to is this, can rangers ever run when stealthed or are we allways forced to walk REALLY REALLLY SLOWLY

if it's just down to character design then fine, but if it's a game bug then i'd like it fixed ,

so here it is:

Ranger: Arrowshot, lvl 17, stealth spec 1, male Luri. (me) = cannot run.

Ranger: Swifte, lvl 18, stealth spec 4, male Luri. (guild mate) = cannot run.

Nightshade: Iii, lvl 12, Stealth spec 7, female Luri. (retired char of mine) = can run.

Stalker: ShadyShade, lvl 1, stealth spec 1, Female Luri. (test char) = can run.

Stalker: ShaderShade, lvl 1, stealth spec 1, male Luri. (test char) = can run.



it looks to me like rangers can't run, i dont think its' down to stealth spec since one of the stalkers had a lower stealth spec than Swifte and could run while he couldnt.

so like i say, can we rangers run or not? Btw, any and all info from other rangers as to whether or not THEY can run would be greatly appreciated

P.S. if it's that ranger's can't run while stealthed, it's utter BS, due to the fact that they're fully capable of it before learning how to be a ranger... why the hell would they just LOSE this ability?!

 

[*Tusk*]

erm lol by run do you mean sprint?and if you do then no they cant..the speed you go when stealthed is as good as it gets..

 

[old.Charonel]

no, of course they can't sprint, i'm not totaly thick.

i'm talking about making a lvl 1 stalker and it being able to run faster tahn a lvl 18 ranger while stealthed even when that ranger has a higher stealth spec, were not talking about sprints... run buffs or anything, please read what i actually wrote, i'm talking about looking in a direction and pressing foward, ie: how you run.

simple fact is that rangers only ever seem to get to walk while stealthed, and was wondering if this is a game bug or something.

basically, as ranger's aren't the "true" stealth class i was also wondering, if it's not a game bug, do they have stealth effectively watered down compared to shades and stalkers in the department of speed, ie they move slower whilst stealthed?

does that explain it better?

 

[Tiptap]

Shoud have rolled a Shade Mr.

 

[Ghelwina]

Stealthed speed is based on specialization and lvl, so:
Rangers are just as fast as other same lvl stealthers at same stealth spec.
lvl1 stalker outrunning those rangers is caused by 100% stealth spec.(lvl1/stealth1)
The walking animation is changed to running at 50% spec or so.

So yes, rangers with stealth skill over 50% (or so) of their lvl can run just fine.

 

[old.Charonel]

um. how to say... "WOOHOO!" heheh thanks just answered all my questions in one go, cheers Ghelwina.

well, i guess that alters my overall stealth spec template, going to make it total 30-40 rather than 20-30, i thought the speed was merely your total stealth spec, ie the higher the faster, didnt realise it had anything to do with stealth spec versus your lvl

thanks a lot.

 

[old.Charonel]

and tiptap, heheh i did, i rolled a shade first, but didnt like the play style, althogh they clearly bitchslap rangers all over when it comes to comparing who's the best stealth uber-masta's in hib

my first main was a void eldritch, my second char who i've stuck with is a ranger, guess i just like the option of fighting at a distance but it's nice to be able to meelee well with my ranger i pure meelee'd a yellow con mob the other day with no end left (first i'd tried to sprint away, ran into a tree ) and i was already hurt before the fight, i almost died but it makes so much of a difference from my eldritch where i frequently had to run if i got aggro from greens (until i got that 6 second stun that was then i just had to run from blue's, unless those blue's were infils ehehehhehe )

rangers are great though, hell of a lot of fun to play.