9800 pro issue with AMD

[Ballard]

Can anyone possible direct me to a popular or offical forum for ATI radeon 9800 pro disscusions? really need an answer on an issue im having.

Ive recently moved my card into a new PC I have built from old parts and some bought ones. The details are as follows;

AMD athlon 3000
MSI mainboard KV7 400 FSB (no onboard graphics)
512 MD DDR
350W PSU
80 gig WD HD
with the reference board ATI radeon 9800 pro 128mb

Okay the problem is the machine identifies 2 graphics cards!! The expected AGP raedon 9800 pro but also another PCI radeon 9800 pro... It appears as '9800 pro secondary' in device manager. I have NOTHING in any of the PCI slots so really dont know where to start looking.
Anyway if i disable the 'secondary' card in device manager everythin appears to work but i get periodic VPU crashes (while playing DAOC) which are normally recoverable and can keep playing aside from a short 'locking' of the game. However sometimes the it cannot be recovered and the PC effectively crashes as the screen goes black.

Thanks for the help.

P.s. Ive tryed .7 & .9 & .11 catalyst drivers and they all have this problem. Used to use .7 fine on my old Intel box with the same card.

 

[Gahn]

doh

Can anyone possible direct me to a popular or offical forum for ATI radeon 9800 pro disscusions? really need an answer on an issue im having.

Ive recently moved my card into a new PC I have built from old parts and some bought ones. The details are as follows;

AMD athlon 3000
MSI mainboard KV7 400 FSB (no onboard graphics)
512 MD DDR
350W PSU
80 gig WD HD
with the reference board ATI radeon 9800 pro 128mb

Okay the problem is the machine identifies 2 graphics cards!! The expected AGP raedon 9800 pro but also another PCI radeon 9800 pro... It appears as '9800 pro secondary' in device manager. I have NOTHING in any of the PCI slots so really dont know where to start looking.
Anyway if i disable the 'secondary' card in device manager everythin appears to work but i get periodic VPU crashes (while playing DAOC) which are normally recoverable and can keep playing aside from a short 'locking' of the game. However sometimes the it cannot be recovered and the PC effectively crashes as the screen goes black.

Thanks for the help.

P.s. Ive tryed .7 & .9 & .11 catalyst drivers and they all have this problem. Used to use .7 fine on my old Intel box with the same card.

I got the very same problem, apart that i didn't disabled the "ghost" card, searched for weeks on web and found nothing.
Same config with Duron worked sweet strangely nuff :/
Hence i'm seriously considering to bump both motherboard AND damn AMD cpu tbh.

 

[Ballard]

the mobo is actually the KT6V

 

[Chronictank]

the secondary is for when u are using multiple monitors i believe (not sure tho) i also have it on my system but doesnt do anything till i have something in the TV-Out.
I think you will find you get the same thing with a Pentium

Unless you are in depserate need of addresses dont see it as being a problem tbh

 

[cHodAX]

Yes, the secondary display is for multi-monitor support and also TV-out support. If you don't use it that does matter, it has no effect on performance or stability.

 

[Ballard]

Ok thanks for the help, at least thats one red herring out of the way...
Unfortunately i still have the problem of the VPU crashing and recovering.

Im at work at the moment so cant try anything out but a bit of web research seems to suggest that possibly changing the AGP speed down to 4X might help or turning off fast writes. Hopefully...

 

[cHodAX]

Ok thanks for the help, at least thats one red herring out of the way...
Unfortunately i still have the problem of the VPU crashing and recovering.

Im at work at the moment so cant try anything out but a bit of web research seems to suggest that possibly changing the AGP speed down to 4X might help or turning off fast writes. Hopefully...

Fast writes has been known to cause many problems with various motherboards in the past, iirc Asus used to be the worst for that problem. The performance difference between x4 and x8 is margainal so that is well worth trying as well, it may well give you more stability.

 

[Litmus]

Ok thanks for the help, at least thats one red herring out of the way...
Unfortunately i still have the problem of the VPU crashing and recovering.

Im at work at the moment so cant try anything out but a bit of web research seems to suggest that possibly changing the AGP speed down to 4X might help or turning off fast writes. Hopefully...

Had this problem for months on end, tryed everything possible. Then i found out it was a setting in my bios. Actualy think you have the same mobo as me too. So do this...

1) Go in bios settings.
2) Find DRAM Clock speed settings.
3) Change it to auto.

Thats how i fixed it and now it's only done it once or twice in the last few months. Hope it works for you.

 

[Ballard]

Okay ive solved the problem. All i did was change the power cable so that the graphics card had its own cable without anthing else on it. I am surprised that this fixed it considering the 9800 manual says to use the same cable as your harddrive and even supplies a T cbale for linking them both to the same cable. Either that or it was just a faulty connector.

Thanks for all the help anyway.

 

[Gahn]

Uhm

Must try that, altho i must say that i finally tried out omega drivers, tweaked ram spd from bios on Auto by Spd and Pstripped Radeon to 380 clock and 333 ram: all seems to work fine now ^^