3D-Card

[Tualatin]

Hey,

I'm currently looking around for a new pc, and with that comes a 3d-card.

Radeon 9800SE € 189,00
Radeon 9600XT, 128MB DDR, AGP, TVO&DVI € 179,00
GeForce FX5900XT, 128MB DDR, TVI&DVI € 209,00
GeForce FX5700, 128MB DDR, TVO&DVI € 159,00
Asus V9570 TD FX5700 256Mb € 179,00
Asus A9600 XT TVD ATI Radeon 128Mb € 199,00

So, yes.. i don't know what card to buy. Regardless of the prices (can get cheaper etcetc), i'd like to know which one is best of the ones above (Top 4 brand is Club3d). And pro's and con's of the cards? Or are there any other options for about 200€ ?

Thnx

 

[Sharma]

Although I have a really bad hatred towards ATI I'd say the second one from the top is your best bet, bang for buck really.

Radeon 9600XT, 128MB DDR, AGP, TVO&DVI € 179,00

the Radeon 9800SE is supposed to be pretty shoddy from what reviews i've read.

And the nvidia cards you have selected seem a bit overpriced so..

 

[Lejemorder]

Hey,

I'm currently looking around for a new pc, and with that comes a 3d-card.


Radeon 9600XT, 128MB DDR, AGP, TVO&DVI € 179,00


So, yes.. i don't know what card to buy. Regardless of the prices (can get cheaper etcetc), i'd like to know which one is best of the ones above (Top 4 brand is Club3d). And pro's and con's of the cards? Or are there any other options for about 200€ ?

Thnx

what is the price of the 9800 version of this card?? coz that the best on market atm (unless u ofc want to pay a furtune, yea okay the 9800 is also very expensive, but the card is the best for the money on the market)

 

[CjkaceBM]

In order of performance

nVidia Geforce 5900XT
Radeon 9600 XT
nVidia Geforce 5700XT
Radeon 9800SE

Value wise it is actually down to luck and balls.

The 5900XT will often overclock to 5900Ultra speeds for core and just short for memory.

Some Radeon 9800SE cards are just throttled 9800s and can be soft-modded to run as a true Radeon 9800 (all 8 pipelines instead of 4)

If of course you have no balls then realistically the 9600XT is best bang for buck, and drivers have been very stable for some time.

 

[Damon_D]

Hey,

I'm currently looking around for a new pc, and with that comes a 3d-card.

Radeon 9800SE € 189,00
Radeon 9600XT, 128MB DDR, AGP, TVO&DVI € 179,00
GeForce FX5900XT, 128MB DDR, TVI&DVI € 209,00
GeForce FX5700, 128MB DDR, TVO&DVI € 159,00
Asus V9570 TD FX5700 256Mb € 179,00
Asus A9600 XT TVD ATI Radeon 128Mb € 199,00

So, yes.. i don't know what card to buy. Regardless of the prices (can get cheaper etcetc), i'd like to know which one is best of the ones above (Top 4 brand is Club3d). And pro's and con's of the cards? Or are there any other options for about 200€ ?

Thnx

Well I dont like ATI so there.. I would not buy anything but Nvidia , but thats just me , driver seem's alot less hassle

Those prices you mention are out of whack thou , just bought a FX5900xt for around 150£ and if you dont want to spend that much , you can get the new FX5700 with 256 mb ram for around 110£ , both from Palit Daytona , only buy the Asus one's if you dont mind trowing money out the window imho..........

 

[CjkaceBM]

Well I dont like ATI so there.. I would not buy anything but Nvidia , but thats just me , driver seem's alot less hassle

Those prices you mention are out of whack thou , just bought a FX5900xt for around 150£ and if you dont want to spend that much , you can get the new FX5700 with 256 mb ram for around 110£ , both from Palit Daytona , only buy the Asus one's if you dont mind trowing money out the window imho..........

I assumed with the use of the Euro symbol that he wasn't shopping in the UK so the prices are about even.

 

[Thegreatest]

Well I dont like ATI so there.. I would not buy anything but Nvidia , but thats just me , driver seem's alot less hassle

Those prices you mention are out of whack thou , just bought a FX5900xt for around 150£ and if you dont want to spend that much , you can get the new FX5700 with 256 mb ram for around 110£ , both from Palit Daytona , only buy the Asus one's if you dont mind trowing money out the window imho..........

The prices you mention are in pounds, the prices listed there are in Euro's...quite a lot difference there.

 

[cHodAX]

Wait for a month if you can, the new Nvidia and ATi cards are going to be blisteringly fast. Benchmarks on the new Nvidia card are showing 50%+ gains in some benches over the fastest cards from the current crop. If you can afford the best then I would wait, otherwise you will feel like you wasted your cash in a couple of months time.

 

[old.windforce]

got a 9800 pro for 209€

wait a month and get one of those


they roxor

 

[katt!]

If you can afford the best then I would wait, otherwise you will feel like you wasted your cash in a couple of months time.

That has ALWAYS been the case with GFX cards.

 

[Addlcove]

That has ALWAYS been the case with GFX cards.

yes but the new Nvidia card has been sent out for public testing

http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040414/index.html

so it is just around the corner

 

[Moriath]

but the new nvidia card has good fps but is letting the cpu do more of the work in some cases and the image quality isnt as good as the ati's but theres a new ati out soon so the pro should come down more 129 pounds atm i think for a pro

 

[inqy]

hmmm this seems a good thread to ask this then:

I have:
Athy xp2500+
1gig 3200ddr
Nvidia ti4600

Most of the time DAoC is fine. But it certain areas (mainly the TOA ones but also some built up SI areas) my system is struggling.

Would a gfx card upgrade be the best solution? As I don't think the CPU is that out of date to justify me upgrading mobo/cpu again.

Thoughts/comments pls

 

[Moriath]

tried the nt4 compatability thing sorted out a lot of stuttering for me and my system is faster

amd 3000 barton
ati 9800xp
1gb ram

The gfx card will make a little difference but I think there seems to be stutter when it loads big textures for built up areas. try the compatability thing fist and if not gfx card is prob the next step

 

[inqy]

should have said I've enabled that, it is a little better but still nasty.

 

[Addlcove]

but the new nvidia card has good fps but is letting the cpu do more of the work in some cases and the image quality isnt as good as the ati's but theres a new ati out soon so the pro should come down more 129 pounds atm i think for a pro

try reading the link I posted... the card they had for testing isn't optimised yet....

I would be very surprised to see if they hadn't fixed the shader thing in the final release of the card

 

[Svartmetall]

And in my experience Nvidia's drivers still own ATI's hands down.

 

[Fana]

hmmm this seems a good thread to ask this then:

I have:
Athy xp2500+
1gig 3200ddr
Nvidia ti4600

Most of the time DAoC is fine. But it certain areas (mainly the TOA ones but also some built up SI areas) my system is struggling.

Would a gfx card upgrade be the best solution? As I don't think the CPU is that out of date to justify me upgrading mobo/cpu again.

Thoughts/comments pls

That the card is struggling is because, while still beeing a good card in pure horse-power, it lacks directx9+ hardware support. The new cards (radeon 9600+ and nvidids geforce fx cards) have this and perform better in games that utilize directx9 (such as ToA).

 

[Krait]

The Radeon 9800 Pro version with the latest drivers is an exceptional card.....rock steady even when overclocked with Radlinker.
It should also be reasonably future-proof too.

 

[Addlcove]

The Radeon 9800 Pro version with the latest drivers is an exceptional card.....rock steady even when overclocked with Radlinker.
It should also be reasonably future-proof too.

and it still gets is arse kicked by the new GF <grin>

I´m gonna start saving now and as soon as the new card gets out I'm a getting me one

 

[Lejemorder]

and it still gets is arse kicked by the new GF <grin>

I´m gonna start saving now and as soon as the new card gets out I'm a getting me one

well i would to if i was ready to spend near € 500 on a gfx card

 

[Lejemorder]

That the card is struggling is because, while still beeing a good card in pure horse-power, it lacks directx9+ hardware support. The new cards (radeon 9600+ and nvidids geforce fx cards) have this and perform better in games that utilize directx9 (such as ToA).

its not allways coz the gfx is strugglingm but in thius case it seems like it.
If u use win2k instead on winxp u will also get awsome lags in some zone + loooooooooooong zoning time.

 

[katt!]

and it still gets is arse kicked by the new GF <grin>

I´m gonna start saving now and as soon as the new card gets out I'm a getting me one

and gf4s get pwned by 9800, so whats your point?

 

[Addlcove]

and gf4s get pwned by 9800, so whats your point?

GF FX's gets owned by the 9800

my point was - Nvidia is hopefully back on the throne! -

 

[Lejemorder]

GF FX's gets owned by the 9800

my point was - Nvidia is hopefully back on the throne! -

Nvidia cheated in a benchmark program and therefor lost my respect
In new version Nvidia performed better then ATI, but in the old version did ATI best and it profed not only a rumoer

 

[Damon_D]

The prices you mention are in pounds, the prices listed there are in Euro's...quite a lot difference there.

Aye silly me didnt notice

 

[Krait]

and it still gets is arse kicked by the new GF <grin>

I´m gonna start saving now and as soon as the new card gets out I'm a getting me one

:eek2:
Just seen the GF 6800 benchmarks.............I wonder how hot that card will get........sure looks good on paper,even if will cost ~£500.00.

The Pro is down to £177.00 atm though.

 

[sko]

Hey,

I'm currently looking around for a new pc, and with that comes a 3d-card.

Radeon 9800SE € 189,00
Radeon 9600XT, 128MB DDR, AGP, TVO&DVI € 179,00
GeForce FX5900XT, 128MB DDR, TVI&DVI € 209,00
GeForce FX5700, 128MB DDR, TVO&DVI € 159,00
Asus V9570 TD FX5700 256Mb € 179,00
Asus A9600 XT TVD ATI Radeon 128Mb € 199,00

So, yes.. i don't know what card to buy. Regardless of the prices (can get cheaper etcetc), i'd like to know which one is best of the ones above (Top 4 brand is Club3d). And pro's and con's of the cards? Or are there any other options for about 200€ ?

Thnx

Regarding the prices, 9600 xt is deffo an excellent card. Got it myself and i get top ratings in 3dmark tests and its all nice. i recomend it

 

[Kami]

I just got my first ATI and I'm blown away with the visual quality I'm getting. I've always gone either Matrox or Nvidia for the past 6 years and neither of them can touch the ATI. It's a far newer card than my old one but I upgraded out of necessity (Nvidia has b0rked RAM) but I'm well impressed:

http://www.halfmad.com/hosted/Nvidia_Ati.JPG

My old card/new card same location at the same time with same game graphics and windows graphics settings.

Incidentally my old GF 4200Ti wasn't struggling on anything yet and I would have stuck with it if it wasn't for the fact that it was knackered. I'm a happy ATI convert now though. To all of those who have brand loyalty - your mugs.

 

[Moriath]

ATI are releasing details / test samples of there new 6800 equiv. in the next fre weeks ... so hold your breath better might be coming