30 mins is considered bad? For an epic?!!

[Valdamar]

The hero/ranger/waren/eld epic is totally ridiculous

we did it all in a grp of 8, but 1 step you have to kill this leprechaun 8 times for all 8 to get quest, and repop time was about 30mins in between...... INFURIATING!

Yeah that from another thread but I wanted to highlight it.

Is that considered ridiculous for an epic in DAoC?

Just started recently - ok I'm ex-EQ - but if 30 mins is bad then whats good? What level do DAoC epics start requiring multiple groups (ie a raid force)?

Better make sure you never play EverQuest if you think that's infuriating (especially not as a cleric, shadowknight, paladin or any of the robes) - I'm sure EQ clerics would happily trade their 3-7 days at Ragefire for 30 minutes anywhere heh

 

[old.Affydaffymezu]

very true indeed,

i used to chuckle when people complained about a 10 minute ride to some place or about lengthy epics.

Thats something daoc misses... the boring day taking quests and waiting for rare monster spawns ... NOT

Afun Mindbreaker
40x sorceress finally back on track

 

[-Wedge-]

There is nothing more boring then to ride across the freaking realm 3 times... Utterly useless too, imho...

The level 15 epic was 'kinda' nice, it gives you a good way to explorer the realm... But for my 43 Epic I needed to go from Excalibur Castle (a bit further, near the ellyll's there) to Caer Withrin, twice...

BORING.... Oohwell, got my ring which is kinda nice... Took about an hour to complete (with all the running around)... Was worth it though... Just didnt see the point of running to Withrin at level 44... (definitly not twice)

 

[Valdamar]

Horseys wheeeeeeee

Yeah but -Wedge- if you were an EQ cleric you'd have spent 7 DAYS sat in one spot, doing nothing except watch - then when the dragon Ragefire spawns you try and get 30 friends there before another guild takes him (unless your server runs a list, then you might have to wait a year for your shot). Now THAT'S boring. And that's just 1 step of the epic quest - there's about 30 other steps, at least 2 of which require a raid (2-4 groups).

Camping EQ epic spawns took DAYS. I personally did druid, rogue and part of monk epic at L55+ - 3 of the "easiest" ones - and spent over 200 hours. Druid epic brownie took me 21 hours solid camping, dual-boxing cos I couldn't solo the placeholders - the pipes and idols for monk epics were about 80 hours combined (I got lucky) - I reckon about 200+ hours of camping spawns and organising 3-4 group raids across all 3.

Surely 30 mins or an hour is nothing for an epic item by comparison. Wouldn't it take you longer to earn money to buy an equivalent item, even if one was available with those stats? Doesn't seem like epics are mandatory either - they are in EQ at top level.

Ok I've only just started playing DAoC so it could get a lot worse, but so far it seems faster (except run speed heh) and less annoying. Horses are fun, fast and cheap too - even with ports in EQ you still had to travel several zones before/after porting and find wizards/druids who wouldn't rip you off - or wait 15-30mins for a boat/nexus portal.

Heck I can log into DAoC for 30 mins and do something productive - couldn't in EQ

 

[- Pathfinder -]

The epics take more than 30 min. The point of annoyance in this case was that every group member had to kill the mob - normally it's fine to kill a mob once per group, which speeds things up (as you need groups to complete the later Epic stages).

 

[Valdamar]

Yeah but

I can see how that's slightly annoying compared to most DAoC quests Pathfinder, but at least you can get lots of people, of different classes, to kill the epic mob because they all have to do that same step. And you can get it all done in one evening.

In EQ: ONE evening = ONE step of ONE person's epic. Most epics took several raids and you need a big guild or a ton of good friends (like I had) - people willing to spend a whole evening prepping for and killing a mob, knowing they won't personally gain from it (and may in fact lose xp by dying). Most epic mobs don't drop other loot apart from the quest piece. Also epic raids could fail, setting you back a few steps or having to restart the whole quest (SK epic, probably the hardest, can completely fail on the very last mob - bye bye hundreds of hours work).

I still say DAoC epics are a lot less infuriating than EQ epics - heck they aren't even on the same scale. DAoC seems a much "easier" game than EQ - less challenge yeah, but a high fun factor and low stress, like a game should be - which leaves more time for roleplaying, tradeskilling, goofing around or whatever.

Just trying to show the guys who are "infuriated" that in the mmorpg world you have it easier than most - by a long way - so enjoy the game rather than complaining about such small timesinks

 

[-Wedge-]

Still, TOO MUCH RUNNING AROUND !
(glad I never looked at EQ )

 

[old.Nightrider]

it looks 2 me that what he is complaining about is that the whole group didnt get the quest at once, they had 2 do it over again 8 times 4 all 2 get it. Usualy in DaoC, everyone gets it if they have the level and stuff thats required. It might b less time then other games, but for Daoc, its not the usual way... and i for one can understand that thats frustrating.

 

[Dalby]

i wouldnt mind, i hate travelling :d

 

[Novamir]

well i never played a MOOMOPORoGRsdwaswasdmajig before this one.. was a hardcore quaker

so yeah 30mins x 8 sitting in the same damn place is n0T r3AllY mY th1nG^

 

[Novamir]

and btw that was just 1 stage. 4 hours for one step when there are 23 steps in total just sucks.

 

[- Pathfinder -]

I'm aware of the fact taht EQ is VERY different However, if you take a look at the player base here you'll find that most are FPS/D2/UO etc players, not EQers; they don't have the patience for it I found levelling in DAoC to be abit too quick really (too many bloody 50s around but it was one of the focal selling points; EQ lite, if you so want

 

[Tank Init]

did the same quest at the leps the repop time was 30 secs to most 2 mins guess u lot was just very very very unlucky