2h users out there

[galaha]

Originally posted by Sohan_THC
2 hander slash

588 max with onslaught

50 + 10 2hand
46 + 10 slash

Glad i have MoP II most of time i get critical hits around 200 xtra

^^ 50 + 17 2 hand
50+ 14 2 hand

get more cap

 

[wildpt]

I know this is a 2h thread but gunner got me curious and i went testing...

651 with poleaxe (no hit bonus)

672 with phalanax (medium hit bonus)

want to test a high hit bonus but only have defender's combo and lv50 defender aegis style but cant test with lv1 mobs

have 1401 weaponskill / 1633 dmg

212 str and 90 quickness

Also did tests with low quickness and dmg increase a bit.

So u wanna increase your dmg? here is some tips for 2h/pole...

- Go over 50 cap, like 50+11(from sc and items)+rr(realm lv)
- Increase strengh with RA, like AuG Str II for example
- Crafted pole 16.5 99% or MP (for ppl that still dont have)
- Do RR5 to remove 16.2 dps cap to 16.5
- Increase criticals % with MoP RA

- If u wanna have an opening strong instead of damage over time, u have to lower your quickness

Ok, thats it that i can remember, if u have more tips please share and lets increase albion tanks performance.

 

[Novamir]

gunner, to frontload get fully buffed except for qui and haste then erm hit people. with 5.5spd+ sword you should have 750+ cap. i assume you have 50/50/28 spec ?

 

[galaha]

only 4.8 speed 2h sword .

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by Novamir
gunner, to frontload get fully buffed except for qui and haste then erm hit people. with 5.5spd+ sword you should have 750+ cap. i assume you have 50/50/28 spec ?

50 2h 44slash not so tight variance but i get more free points elsewhere.


and yes i know how to frontload but vs mdis and hibs it's quite hard unless you have a support tank

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by wildpt
I know this is a 2h thread but gunner got me curious and i went testing...

651 with poleaxe (no hit bonus)

672 with phalanax (medium hit bonus)

want to test a high hit bonus but only have defender's combo and lv50 defender aegis style but cant test with lv1 mobs

have 1401 weaponskill / 1633 dmg

212 str and 90 quickness

Also did tests with low quickness and dmg increase a bit.

So u wanna increase your dmg? here is some tips for 2h/pole...

- Go over 50 cap, like 50+11(from sc and items)+rr(realm lv)
- Increase strengh with RA, like AuG Str II for example
- Crafted pole 16.5 99% or MP (for ppl that still dont have)
- Do RR5 to remove 16.2 dps cap to 16.5
- Increase criticals % with MoP RA

- If u wanna have an opening strong instead of damage over time, u have to lower your quickness

Ok, thats it that i can remember, if u have more tips please share and lets increase albion tanks performance.

mmm 1 things i wanted to ask

Why bother putting +aug strength?

as hard cap is 300 anyway and with 0 aug strength i get 325 str buffed (200 capped unbuffed) which makes 25 of it a waste, plus ur weaponskill reaches the limit too.

if you want to test defender's rage do the following:

(chuffy's idea)

get a guy to remove all armor/jewels etc and duel challenge.

duel challenge as normal, and then ask him to style you.
Immediately after that he has to sit down and then you do the style - this works.

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by **Aligro**
my cap is 131

sorry but lol?

errr how did u test this?

my 1h cap atm is 429 so how on earth do u get 131??

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by Silenzio
agu str 2 i see...

u not goin for moa right?

moa is bugged and dont bother going for it

if you want faster swing speed use a faster weapon/haste/quickness buffs

imho it's much more worthwhile than going aug str3 etc for some broken RA + u save points

 

[wildpt]

Originally posted by gunZ-
mmm 1 things i wanted to ask

Why bother putting +aug strength?

as hard cap is 300 anyway and with 0 aug strength i get 325 str buffed (200 capped unbuffed) which makes 25 of it a waste, plus ur weaponskill reaches the limit too.

if you want to test defender's rage do the following:

(chuffy's idea)

get a guy to remove all armor/jewels etc and duel challenge.

duel challenge as normal, and then ask him to style you.
Immediately after that he has to sit down and then you do the style - this works.

U right but i put AuG str cos its not very often i get uber buffs, but of course the ppl that very often group with good enhancement cleric can avoid AuG Str, tks for the warning.

hehe nice idea from chuffy, will try that.

btw i found a grey mob that have 700 hp +- and i can cap phalanx style (672dmg) so i test defender aegis (lv50 style) that have high bonus to hit and the result was 762 , i think with 50 quickness (tested with 90) can reach 800 dmg.

2h..700 dmg +- ,4.8 sec weapon
pole(thrust)...800 dmg +- ,5.5 sec weapon

now we only need to ask enemys to go emain without armour to tanks be uber again...

 

[Jiggs]

or just find a caster who forgot his AF buffs

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by wildpt
U right but i put AuG str cos its not very often i get uber buffs, but of course the ppl that very often group with good enhancement cleric can avoid AuG Str, tks for the warning.

nah iwth a lvl 37 cleric buffs i get 298 str which is good enough.


and when u test cap on grey mobs make sure they are LVL 1 mobs, not lvl 30grey or so as there will be difference.

e.g. spirit hounds in cam hills.

 

[Moody]

2h Thrust here. str capped on 200. dex capped on 150+12 from aug dex2

2H: 50
Thrust: 39

This is with 100% effective dps war pick (16.2).

Onslaught on spirit hound with 106 qui : 594
Onslaught on spirit hound with 50 qui : 622

 

[osrim]

This got me intrested...

Just to compare...here some zerker made mid AXE cap values...

50+16 axe, str 186, 104 qui, WS 1293.

Weapon: 16.1dps (15.9 effective), 5.5spd, 98 qua, 2H Axe.

Havoc->Tyrs fury, front chain:
665 and 730

Evernight->Arctic rift, back chain:
625 and 742

Glacial movement, side move:
675

Unstyled:
423

 

[wildpt]

Re: This got me intrested...

Originally posted by osrim
Just to compare...here some zerker made mid AXE cap values...

50+16 axe, str 186, 104 qui, WS 1293.

Weapon: 16.1dps (15.9 effective), 5.5spd, 98 qua, 2H Axe.

Havoc->Tyrs fury, front chain:
665 and 730

Evernight->Arctic rift, back chain:
625 and 742

Glacial movement, side move:
675

Unstyled:
423

Ouch!

Dont need to delete zerkers after LA nerf.... just use 2h

Artic rift is great cos is medium hit bonus and do more dmg then tyrs fury (high hit bonus) and also great combo for rvr (behind target) and use low endurance...

Now when i see a 2h-axe mid i will never turn my back to him ... tks!

 

[Treniel-]

last time i looked my cap was 513 ( i think) hows that right if i'm only 50pole 38slash (gimped at DAM GOA) and kagato is 50/50? and that was unstyled

 

[K0nah]

caps all depend on speed of weapon tren00b

and yeh aug str wasnt worth getting, but since the caps come off next patch all of a sudden tanks can start pumping RA points into their primary dmg stat and actually see some benefit (even when fully buffed)

 

[old.Filip]

Weapon: 16.1dps (15.9 effective), 5.5spd, 98 qua, 2H Axe.

imho that weapon is to bad ..

you need at least 16.3 dps

Filip
Minser of HB

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Someone needs to edit their sig to be shorter imho o_o

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by gunZ-
moa is bugged and dont bother going for it

if you want faster swing speed use a faster weapon/haste/quickness buffs

imho it's much more worthwhile than going aug str3 etc for some broken RA + u save points

my point was to avoid him getting moa =)

i respecced out from moa 3 u cant belive how many wasted point

yess my weap skill is 63 point lower... but who cares

with 20 ra point i got so many usefull things ;P

bb

 

[osrim]

Originally posted by old.Filip
imho that weapon is to bad ..

you need at least 16.3 dps

Filip
Minser of HB

Yep, saving to better...used it only to keep doors until nerf. Now testing possibilities.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
Want a melee duel? I'll use my caster gear (you know, I was the purple luwi ns with a staff).

Oh and my PA cap is 820 with capped everything with a 5.5 spd staff and 711 with 2.9 spd piercers. If you're interested

Ehmm.. that depends, you are gonna PA me first and then melee? Or a straight on melee-fight, no stealth, no poison/debuffs etc ?

The last one: Sure, the first one: Hmm, that's a bit futile, I can never win off an assassin who uses PA on me in melee

Doubt I win it in straight melee-fight, but I am willing to try it.. Leave buff-bots home, only class-only stuff (no shouts/DD's/mezz/stun/pets/etc etc)

If you want PM me for an appointment where and when to meet

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by gunZ-
Why bother putting +aug strength?

as hard cap is 300 anyway and with 0 aug strength i get 325 str buffed (200 capped unbuffed) which makes 25 of it a waste, plus ur weaponskill reaches the limit too.

next patch they remove the 300 cap... but till then...

 

[Flimgoblin]

puppet - shame you didn't get a chance to staff-duel Xintyl at Gwyntell a while back : )

Puppetmistress /br's "any caster want a staff duel" but she was afk (and too shy to duel anyway )

 

[Larik-]

Staff duel an earth theurgist? ouch!!!! Last time I duelled Xintyl went right down to 5% health she had about 90% left