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[Etherion]

OK, Something is really wrong with this patch. Did they NERF TH CRAP FOR MP??? I made 3 mps in 2 days for my orders:

76 retries for mp rf sleeves
70 retries for mp cloth sleeves
251 retries for mp cloth leggings

OMG, this is not normal, and I did 40 tries for a wreath before I gave up. Does anyone else notice that it is ALOT harder to get mp, or th dude who orderd this armor, just has alot of bad luck?

 

[kalid]

Don't think it's a nerf. Made some MP for HD which took almost 300 retries on first item. Then the next went smoothly... It's all about bad and good streaks.

Also have made 159 tries for a MP hingie... and then the next few MPs i got was all under 10 retries.

 

[old.Laryssa]

was already bad after SI went live

235x on af102 leather pants - ask Kisenda

alone 5p wasted on that pants

 

[Alrindel]

It's been that way since release. Sooner or later every crafter hits a bad patch and starts to think that it just has to be a bug.

 

[StormriderX]

weapon crafters get it worst cause you have to get lucky on every 3rd attempt - gogo mp blade/hilt = 94% weapon >,<

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by StormriderX
weapon crafters get it worst cause you have to get lucky on every 3rd attempt - gogo mp blade/hilt = 94% weapon >,<

StormriderX TehMPHiltMaster

 

[spankya]

Originally posted by Alrindel
It's been that way since release. Sooner or later every crafter hits a bad patch and starts to think that it just has to be a bug.

Well u keep saying that and since 2 patches ago loads of people have been moaning but they werent moaning so much before. Saying poeple r having a bad run cant be happening to most crafters at the same time, unless u wanna tell me that most crafters have had 1month bad run all at the same time and still having it? I doubt it

Something has changed, most crafters have noticed it.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by StormriderX
weapon crafters get it worst cause you have to get lucky on every 3rd attempt - gogo mp blade/hilt = 94% weapon >,<

have no id where you got that from, but the qual on the hilt and blade is not important for the qual off the weapon itself

 

[Cloak_]

Originally posted by old.Laryssa
235x on af102 leather pants - ask Kisenda

Lets just say lotsa swearing was going on

 

[Solarius]

Originally posted by driwen
have no id where you got that from, but the qual on the hilt and blade is not important for the qual off the weapon itself

I think what he's talking about is that you have to hope that, when you make a weapon, you are lucky on the third stage. The hinge strategy isn't so straightforward for WC, since there are the three parts, making hilt/haft, making blade/head then combining.

Personally, when I get to that stage, I'm gonna follow the strategy of making xx hilts, xx blades and then hinging till mp, then combine. Still, that leaves the problem of if you fail to get the mp, then mp the first new hilt/blade >.< Alternativly, you might get the mp on first attempt, leaving you with loads of components, but I doubt any wc would complain about that

 

[kathal_tdd]

Hmm. Think we all have our share of bad streaks.
Just sad if you get one at the expensive items.

 

[Kobold]

Think I need a rabbit foot or something^^

 

[Dinfar]

Originally posted by StormriderX
weapon crafters get it worst cause you have to get lucky on every 3rd attempt - gogo mp blade/hilt = 94% weapon >,<

tbh i cant see how u got it "worse" - when making blade and hilt, u raise the attempts on MP, so imo u got just about the same chance as a AC, Tailor, whatever.

 

[Danya]

If course you have the same chance. The chance is 2% whether you're making weapons, armour or whatever. All this "oh I made a hilt so spent my chance" is wrong, you don't "spend" random chances, they just happen at random. The hinging for MP thing seems to work because mythic's random number generator tends to have streaks of good and bad luck.

 

[Solarius]

I was implying for the irritation factor. I mean, if you made 25 hilts and 25 blades, hinged to a mp then combined the bits (all non-mp) then the next hilt you made was an mp, whats the survival rate for your monitor?

 

[Armolas]

Nah not nerfed the other day I made 3 +28 stat MP gems in about 6 tries.

You were just unlucky

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by Solarius
I was implying for the irritation factor. I mean, if you made 25 hilts and 25 blades, hinged to a mp then combined the bits (all non-mp) then the next hilt you made was an mp, whats the survival rate for your monitor?

hahahahahaha

 

[Affri]

Been there, done that ^^ Annoying as feck, lol

 

[Affri]

Originally posted by Danyan
The hinging for MP thing seems to work because mythic's random number generator tends to have streaks of good and bad luck.

How does this exactly work?

 

[Noche]

mmm Bad luck... like the day I wasted 2p for one single gain... use lucky garden dwarves ppl sometimes it works p

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by Dinfar
tbh i cant see how u got it "worse" - when making blade and hilt, u raise the attempts on MP, so imo u got just about the same chance as a AC, Tailor, whatever.

When making myself a mp angled dagger I spent 10p+ making the little bastard. Along the way I aquired 6xmp hilts and 7x mp blades. So I got 13 mps along the way and didn't get a single useful one until the 14th -_-

Show me a tailor/fletcher who has a 'crap' mp crafted item -_-

Only people who can feel the pain is a scale crafter making mp scales -_-

 

[Khefru]

I definately think that crafting has got harder, even on 99 qual stuff.

 

[athar]

With the new patch and the last suit i made, i know for sure that something got nerfed in (armor)crafting.
I was making a BG1 suit and I had 15-20 retries for 99% on each piece :doh:
While before the last patch I usually made a 99% in 6 retries.

Some ppl say it's just bad luck or a "bad streak" but its a fact i see more and more crafters comfirming this.

 

[effendor]

making MP's sucks big time, players just have to realise it may cost a lot of plat to make an MP. The time involved is silly too.
It's time for us crafters to get heavy and demand 100 gold per hour ! With no fixed budget.

 

[old.Laryssa]

made sleeves for private use on 1st try today

 

[Kobold]

Originally posted by StormriderX
When making myself a mp angled dagger I spent 10p+ making the little bastard. Along the way I aquired 6xmp hilts and 7x mp blades. So I got 13 mps along the way and didn't get a single useful one until the 14th -_-

Show me a tailor/fletcher who has a 'crap' mp crafted item -_-

Only people who can feel the pain is a scale crafter making mp scales -_-

i just luv to make af98 Mp leather vests and Mp scales and mix em into 94% scale vest ^^

 

[Slinker]

Last few days I made 4 MP af 51 items in around 14 goes , also made 3 MP AF 51 robes in 12 attempts , made 2 MP sleeves in 3 attempts , made an MP AF51 pointy hat first go , made 2 MP pairs of gloves again in 3 attempts , 2 MP pants in around 5 attempts , before that I could go days with nothing . Just the random numbers game doing what it does best , being "Random" , Bet I get nothing now for weeks , And then I take 25 tries to get a 99% lowbie pair of leather pants , heh .

 

[WIZ@RD_of_W@R]

Originally posted by Etherion
OK, Something is really wrong with this patch. Did they NERF TH CRAP FOR MP??? I made 3 mps in 2 days for my orders:

76 retries for mp rf sleeves
70 retries for mp cloth sleeves
251 retries for mp cloth leggings

OMG, this is not normal, and I did 40 tries for a wreath before I gave up. Does anyone else notice that it is ALOT harder to get mp, or th dude who orderd this armor, just has alot of bad luck?

Lol you think 251 retries is bad took me 837 tries on MP AF 102 scale gloves while they conned grey.
I think mythic should really look into crafting more. Especially AC as it's most gimped of all crafts we depending on tailors to make leather for scale (with capped leatherworking and capped clothworking) have the highest cost on material and let not even start on the fact u can only make scale per 20 pieces.
I find it an insult when a LGM crafter still get's 94% on lowbe stuff. IMO grey co crafts should turn out 97%+ qua at least.