+11 Runecarving ?

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pudzy

Guest
I'm being told different stories from deifferent people about what exactly this will achieve in rvr and pve. Please tell me the effects of 48+11 rc in rvr i need to know if its worth it.
 
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Glyph_mid

Guest
It will lover the variance of the damage, so you hit the same numberish for damage each time. So basicly it just raises the lower cap
 
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Sarnat

Guest
Against L50s it doesnt really do much. On any higher level target it will raise your damage though. So if you have like 48rc/20d, it's better to max dark before rc in spellcraft templates.
 
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mid_Efour

Guest
nope ive been looking into this alot as well

anything over 50 in RvR except rr5 is pointless

Pve Maybe... it lowers your variance. but i find i always cap on mobs with bolts for consistant values approx 730 + 500 on yellow/OJ Skrats(?) near hagall. i dont really think +11 does naff all


My suggestion is get a +11rc suit of nubi cloth completely nekkid no +pie or dex and go try it out on people, grey mobs, yellow mobs etc
 
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Ardrias_Mid

Guest
If you can afford it, get it. Pretty simple. All damage = good damage :)
 
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Sarnat

Guest
There is no reason NOT to get it if you have nice items. You probably have either 47rc/26s or 48rc/2x dark. Putting (spell crafted skill) points into dark or supp when you are rc/supp is a waste (IMO). Then you should of course put 11 RC for PvE. If you are a darkcarver, you should put dark first to +11 and RC with whatever you can still fit in with everything else capped.
 
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Qte Eth

Guest
it does increase damage in rvr if going over 50 so if u can afford this do it;)
and since for a mage its easy its worth it:)
 
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Glyph_mid

Guest
As Q said, it does help in rvr.

Tried with my chanter going without +11 and with.
 
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Roo Stercogburn

Guest
I find I do more damage if I go out with my Arakasi crafted staff (TM) which maxxes my +11 darkness, than if I go out with my DF staff which doesn't quite max it. In general I get less resists too, though don't ask me for stats.

Belorfyn did some testing too and found that getting +darkness above 50 did make a difference in RvR, though it was a small difference. As Ardrias said, all damage is good damage :)
 
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pudzy

Guest
What about..

Config Report

Stats:
Str: 0 Int: 0 Hits: 205
Con: 75 Pie: 75 Power: 11
Dex: 75 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 27 Energy: 25 Crush: 36
Cold: 26 Matter: 26 Thrust: 27
Heat: 26 Spirit: 27 Slash: 27

Skills:
11 Darkness 11 Runecarving
2 Mending 4 Shield



Focus:
50 Darkness Focus 50 Runecarving Focus


Chest:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Thrust Resist - 99% polished Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 13 Spirit Resist - 99% precious Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist - 99% flawed Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 2 Cold Resist - 99% uncut Icy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 58

Arms:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Body Resist - 99% polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Matter Resist - 99% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 22 Piety - 99% precious Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 16 Dexterity - 99% polished Vapor Essence Jewel
Utility: 61.3333358764648

Head:
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99% flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99% imperfect Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 59.3333320617676

Legs:
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99% flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 16 Piety - 99% polished Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99% precious Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 57

Hands:
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 99% polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 2 Heat Resist - 99% uncut Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Darkness - 99% flawed Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 4: 5 Runecarving - 99% imperfect Heated Chaos Rune
Utility: 67

Feet:
Imbue Points: 35 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 78%
Gem 1: 3 Darkness - 99% rough Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 2: 22 Piety - 99% precious Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99% polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 52 Hits - 99% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 60.6666641235352

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 50 Darkness Focus - 99% perfect Ice Rune
Gem 2: 50 Runecarving Focus - 99% perfect Heat Rune
Gem 3: 4 Darkness - 99% flawed Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 4: 6 Runecarving - 99% polished Heated Chaos Rune
Utility: 52

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Neck:
Name: Beaded Resisting Stone
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Utility: 80

Cloak:
Name: Scaffold Web Cloak
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Constitution
Utility: 52

Jewel:
Name: Qwinhild's Ancestral Jewel
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Body Resist
Effect 2: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Utility: 54

Belt:
Name: Flame Wrought Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Piety
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Power
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Utility: 46

Right Ring:
Name: Ring of Spun Silk
Level: 48 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 3 Constitution
Effect 4: 21 Hits
Utility: 47.25

Left Ring:
Name: Band of Ice
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 13 Constitution
Utility: 44.6666679382324

Right Wrist:
Name: Bedring
Level: 49 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Power
Effect 4: 2 Mending
Utility: 58

Left Wrist:
Name: Skjold
Level: 49 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 12 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 3 Constitution
Effect 4: 4 Shield
Utility: 62

Got Biggilus on the job :)
 
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Big-G-

Guest
wow
superb template very uber, whoever made up that one is a god \o/
 
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Ardrias_Mid

Guest
Or you can find a thread where Solid made 2 templates for me, with less mp armor ~~

Would link but I cba :|
 
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Brunore

Guest
That temp is shit, sorry, but you dont need MP gear for that...

In true Blue Peter style... heres on I made ealier...

Change the focus and skill as needed, and a pointeh hat is needed imo!!1

Config Report

Stats:
Str: 0 Int: 0 Hits: 203
Con: 76 Pie: 75 Power: 11
Dex: 75 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 28 Energy: 25 Crush: 28
Cold: 24 Matter: 25 Thrust: 25
Heat: 27 Spirit: 26 Slash: 26

Skills:
11 Darkness 11 Suppression




Focus:
50 Darkness Focus 50 Suppression


Chest:
Imbue Points: 32.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Heat Resist - 99% flawed Heated Shielding Jewel
Utility: 53.3333358764648

Arms:
Imbue Points: 32.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99% polished Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99% imperfect Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 53.3333358764648

Head:
Imbue Points: 32.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99% polished Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Piety - 99% precious Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Spirit Resist - 99% imperfect Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Thrust Resist - 99% imperfect Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 53.3333358764648

Legs:
Imbue Points: 32 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 16 Dexterity - 99% polished Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 44 Hits - 99% polished Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99% imperfect Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 4 Darkness - 99% flawed Icy Chaos Rune
Utility: 55.6666679382324

Hands:
Imbue Points: 32 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 22 Piety - 99% precious Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 36 Hits - 99% imperfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Spirit Resist - 99% flawed Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Utility: 51.6666679382324

Feet:
Imbue Points: 32 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 16 Piety - 99% polished Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Darkness - 99% flawed Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 3: 4 Suppression - 99% flawed Dusty Chaos Rune
Gem 4: 5 Energy Resist - 99% flawed Light Shielding Jewel
Utility: 60.6666679382324

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 26 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 50 Darkness Focus - 99% perfect Ice Rune
Gem 2: 50 Suppression - 99% perfect Dust Rune
Gem 3: 3 Darkness - 99% rough Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 4: 5 Suppression - 99% imperfect Dusty Chaos Rune
Utility: 42

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Neck:
Name: Beaded Resisting Stone
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Utility: 80

Cloak:
Name: Scaffold Web Cloak
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 6 Constitution
Utility: 52

Jewel:
Name: Qwinhild's Ancestral Jewel
Level: 40 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Body Resist
Effect 2: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Utility: 54

Belt:
Name: Flame Wrought Belt
Level: 45 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 48 Hits
Effect 2: 7 Power
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Piety
Utility: 46

Right Ring:
Name: Ring of Spun Silk
Level: 48 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 3 Constitution
Effect 4: 21 Hits
Utility: 47.25

Left Ring:
Name: Band of Ice
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 13 Constitution
Utility: 44.6666679382324

Right Wrist:
Name: Erorb
Level: 49 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Power
Effect 4: 2 Suppression
Utility: 58

Left Wrist:
Name: Jergursunn
Level: 49 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 8 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 30 Hits
Utility: 51.5
 
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Big-G-

Guest
i only used MP armour for pudz in that template coz thats what he had already
i capped everything on my darkcarver with 99% armour, MP gloves/boots - only slash was 1% off cap

but yea pudz, imo get ure armour redone and sell the MP for more
 
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pudzy

Guest
Aye but Brunore I already had it sitting in vault, also theres the fact that you failedto cap 4 resists :p I like to have everything capped, I'm missing 1% energy but thats notmuch considering whatelse I'm getting I guess :eek:
 
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Aoami

Guest
Config Report

Stats:
Str: 0 Int: 0 Hits: 207
Con: 75 Pie: 75 Power: 4
Dex: 76 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 25 Energy: 27 Crush: 28
Cold: 25 Matter: 24 Thrust: 25
Heat: 27 Spirit: 30 Slash: 26

Skills:
11 Darkness 11 Runecarving
3 Summoning 3 Left Axe



Focus:
50 Darkness Focus 50 Runecarving Focus


Chest:
Imbue Points: 32 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 3 Darkness - 99% rough Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - 99% imperfect Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Cold Resist - 99% imperfect Icy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 57.6666641235352

Arms:
Imbue Points: 32 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 3 Darkness - 99% rough Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Thrust Resist - 99% imperfect Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Utility: 57.6666641235352

Head:
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 36 Hits - 99% imperfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 19 Dexterity - 99% faceted Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 22 Piety - 99% precious Watery Essence Jewel
Utility: 51.0000038146973

Legs:
Imbue Points: 32.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 3 Runecarving - 99% rough Heated Chaos Rune
Gem 2: 16 Piety - 99% polished Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Utility: 57.6666641235352

Hands:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 19 Piety - 99% faceted Watery Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 44 Hits - 99% polished Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 52.3333358764648

Feet:
Imbue Points: 27.5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 13 Dexterity - 99% imperfect Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99% imperfect Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Heat Resist - 99% flawed Heated Shielding Jewel
Utility: 45.6666679382324

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 31 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 70%
Gem 1: 50 Darkness Focus - 99% perfect Ice Rune
Gem 2: 50 Runecarving Focus - 99% perfect Heat Rune
Gem 3: 5 Darkness - 99% imperfect Icy Chaos Rune
Gem 4: 5 Runecarving - 99% imperfect Heated Chaos Rune
Utility: 52

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Neck:
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 Body Resist
Utility: 80

Cloak:
Name: Scaffold Web Cloak
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 6 Constitution
Utility: 52

Jewel:
Name: Quinhilds Jewel
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 8 Body Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Utility: 54

Belt:
Name: Golden Scale Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 3 Runecarving
Effect 2: 3 Summoning
Effect 3: 18 Dexterity
Effect 4: 18 Piety
Utility: 54

Right Ring:
Name: Rung of Spun Silk
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 3 Constitution
Effect 4: 21 Hits
Utility: 47.25

Left Ring:
Name: Warding String Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 4 Power
Utility: 60

Right Wrist:
Name: Jergersunn Bracelet
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 30 Hits
Utility: 43.5

Left Wrist:
Name: Venstreks Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 12 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 3 Left Axe
Effect 4: 4 Dexterity
Utility: 61.6666679382324


all easy to get items - all stuff 99% everything capped except 2% matter resist + power
 
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parisienscot

Guest
Can someone tell me where all that jewellry comes from?

I think I know a couple though :

Band of Ice - from windswept wraithes (in Odin's Gate / Raumarik?)

Ancestral thingie jewel - Ancestral Secrets Quest

Beaded Resistance Stones - Another SI quest

but what about the others?
 
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Big-G-

Guest
bah at all those templates!
using 99% armour i was only undercapped on slash by 1% ^^

as for the items, u got SI quests mainbly
catla's downfall gets u 2 bracers
BoI from raumarik
ring spun silk + scaffold cloak from Dark Places of Soul quest
glacial jewel from hidden maps quest
flame wrought belt cant remember where mine came form tbh

all easy to get tho
 

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