1.85 cleric template

[jocelynn]

I usually take a few goes to get a template I like, but thought I'd post an early go to get an idea of what the new benchmark is, here goes (this is with 40 enhance resist buffs up).

It's really similar to somebody elses I seen on this board, which I had thought was really good, but please be honest with me

Config Report

Stats

Hits:172
Con:75
Pie:100
Dex:101

Resists

Body:31
Energy:24
Crush:25 (3)
Cold:23 (5)
Matter:5
Thrust:26
Heat:24
Spirit:31
Slash:26 (2)

Cap Increases

26 Dexterity
80 Hits
25 Piety
25 Power
5 Constitution

Other Bonuses

24 Healing Effectiveness
10 Spell Range
44 % Power Pool
8 AF
25 Stat Buff Effectiveness
10 Duration of Spells
10 Casting Speed

Items:

ACN, cloak of Zephyr, EoY, Jacinas, STR, Immo, cb dex, bracer of zo
Eirenes, epic arms, mp head, epic legs, mp hands and feet. Darkspire shield and cleric dextra mace...

 

[Sarisir]

looks very nice m8, post full template plz, wanna use on my cleric

 

[jocelynn]

[edit] Thanks

Piece Listing:

Chest
Name: Eirenes
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 4 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Effect 6: 4 Healing Effectiveness
Utility: 34.00

Arms
Name: cleric epic
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 % Power Pool
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 7 Slash
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 6 Power Cap Increase
Utility: 24.00

Head: Sigil Protected Mail
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Piety - 99 Rough Watery Essence
Gem 3: 9 Cold - 99 Polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
5% defense
Utility: 59.33


Legs
Name: cleric epic
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 7 Thrust
Effect 3: 6 Power Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 6 % Power Pool
Utility: 24.00

Hands: Sigil Enchanted Mail (Stygia)
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - 99 Flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 19 Constitution - 99 Faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 9 Cold - 99 Polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
+5 dex cap
Utility: 61.33

Feet: Sigil Enscrolled Mail (Aerus)
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Constitution - 99 Imperfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 28 Dexterity - 99 Perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 7 Crush - 99 Imperfect Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
5% Buff bonus
Utility: 56.33

Right Hand
Name: MD shield
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Duration of Spells
Effect 2: 4 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Effect 3: 6 Piety Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits
Effect 5: 18 Piety
Effect 6: 6 % Power Pool
Utility: 22.00

Left Hand
Name: Cleric cl
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Casting Speed
Effect 2: 4 Spell Range
Effect 3: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Healing Effectiveness
Effect 5: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: ACN
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush
Effect 2: 10 Thrust
Effect 3: 10 Body
Effect 4: 10 Spirit
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Cloak of the Zephyr
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 8 % Power Pool
Effect 3: 8 Power Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed
Effect 5: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Utility: 10.00

Jewel
Name: Egg of youth
Level: 51 Quality: 94
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Crush
Effect 2: 5 Thrust
Effect 3: 5 Slash
Effect 4: 32 Hits
Effect 5: 8 Healing Effectiveness
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 12 Acuity
Utility: 46.00

Belt
Name: Jacinas sash (cler)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Duration of Spells
Effect 2: 5 Spell Range
Effect 3: 5 % Power Pool
Effect 4: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Utility: 0.00

Right Ring
Name: Immo ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 2: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 3: 8 Energy
Effect 4: 8 Heat
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 15 Acuity
Utility: 52.00

Left Ring
Name: Scorp tail
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 % Power Pool
Effect 2: 4 Casting Speed
Effect 3: 8 AF
Effect 4: 6 Healing Effectiveness
Effect 5: 6 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Utility: 0.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Zo
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Acuity
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 5 Body
Effect 4: 5 Spirit
Effect 5: 6 % Power Pool
Effect 6: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 42.00

Left Wrist
Name: cb dex
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 2: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 18 Dexterity
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Utility: 34.00

 

[Sarisir]

thx

 

[Ballard]

(this is with 40 enhance resist buffs up).


...

Got to be brutally honest, that is terrible. 15% body resist... you really have to be kidding. Why on earth would you include the resist buff in your template specs? The key resists need to be capped before taking any buffs into account.

On the artifact front you really should have eternal plant and ctr (if you can get it in).

Hits are too low aswell should be looking at getting them up round 240-260.

 

[jocelynn]

15% body resist... you really have to be kidding. Why on earth would you include the resist buff in your template specs? ...

On the artifact front you really should have eternal plant and ctr (if you can get it in).

Hits are too low aswell should be looking at getting them up round 240-260.

Ok I thought the resists would stack on top, obviously they don't or there's something I'm not taking into account? Why not include the resist buffs? (serious question here, not a bait...)

About EP and CTR, I really don't agree that they are "essentials". Nice if you can have it but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

This uses some of my old kit, and I only have to buy 1 item to get this template, so for me it seemed perfect. I don't see how you can have everything you have said without introducing rare and expensive items, but like I said at the begining of the post I am only starting with this template. I came here for a bit help, I never claimed to have made an "uber" template so don't get your pantys in a twist (jk)

Anyway I'd appreciate if somebody would clear up if there's a particular reason why I shouldn't include my resist buffs from the enhance line in the template so I can make a new template accordingly,

Thanks in advance, Joce

 

[Ballard]

Of course casted resists stack.

Anyway I'd appreciate if somebody would clear up if there's a particular reason why I shouldn't include my resist buffs from the enhance line in the template so I can make a new template accordingly,

The reason why you shouldnt include any casted resist in your template is because they are not stats contributed by your template (much like you wouldnt include stat buffs either). They just make it less clear when seeing how close you are to the actual item caps.

Thus the key resists should be capped (or be close) to 26% before taking into account casted resists. Hence with casted you should have around 40%+.

regarding EP I would always have it, I mean a 50-60% power charge is kinda handy for a healer... Ctr once you take into account the passive dmg conversion is the highest utility item in the game.

p.s. Some of those items in your temp have unrecorded +af bonuses. Try and enter them aswell, as 40-50 af in your temp is a nice bonus if you can get it.

 

[Huntingtons]

and you got 3 parts of the new armor, which is kinda expensive i recall

 

[Napshot]

no offensce surf the boards for mess template its far better than the 1 posted... with new armor u must be able 2 better, my 1.84 temp is better than the 1 u postet... and scorp ring in temp is abit sucky and no EP in templete

 

[Golena]

The reason to not include the resist buffs when you write it down is in order to see how much actual resist you have in your template, someone has to go away, find out how much you get from the cleric buff, then come back, subtract that from the number your wrote in order to find out how much you actually got. If your going to include them, write them in brackets next to the actual template number.. It also looks like you are trying to use the fact that you have the casted buffs to get away with not capping the template ones.. Saying 15 body resist is ok because I can cast a self 16 body resist buff is not correct. The fact you have the buff should be ignored really.

but please be honest with me

OK here goes...
The template is actually fairly poor.
Body resist is shocking if that's the value with resists up and your missing ctr and EP. Hits are low as well, but you could live with that if the rest was sorted out.

You can argue that they arn't vital all you want, but there's templates with better stats already posted that not only include these but don't use the new armour, and won't cost you any more than the one you posted.

 

[jocelynn]

Ok, had a chat with a friend who convinced me to try a bit better. We had good talk and I do understand what you are all saying, but I do think some comments where a bit harsh- I have personally seen much much worse templates

Really, the question about ctr and ep is a matter of opinion, now I didn't say they aren't nice I said they aren't the first thing I put into a template- its not like eoy where I would really notice it was gone.

About hits, well my cleric is highlander, so that gives me a little extra con on creation. She has about 10 extra than a briton which is what 40-60 hits? She ends up fully buffed with 2.2k hits (thats with less than capped hits in template) which I didn't think is really all that poor.

Anyway, thats the hits and stuff out of the question, so the only remaining thing is body which I knew would make people say something. Well the way I figured, the 10% less in body, is it really all that much? Even if they nuked 1k, thats what 100 dmg every nuke not shielded? I'm fully expecting a "but thats 100k every nuke!" response, but hey if I had made up my mind fully on what I was doing I wouldn't have bothered to post it here Anyway, I didn't know about mezz and I hadn't considered Bainshee dmg but I would have prolly have stuck to my guns anyway. I rarely get caught in a mezz now with purge down now I have purge 3, and I kinda figured I always get squished with bainshees anyway with the template I have now which is body capped Well anyway it was nice to see peoples response lol

Here is attempt two, was going to be really stuborn but really I can do better (oh and this is without enh resists) :

Stats

Hits:196 (2200 hits with buffs)
Con:80
Pie:103
Dex:101

Resists

Body:23
Energy:13
Crush:24 (3)
Cold:28 (5)
Matter:5
Thrust:24
Heat:22
Spirit:5
Slash:25 (2)

Cap Increases

23 Piety (capped on armour)
23 Dexterity (capped on armour)
80 Hits
5 Constitution
25 Power

Other Bonuses

25 Healing Effectiveness
13 Spell Range
44 % Power Pool
8 AF
22 Stat Buff Effectiveness (capped on armour)
6 Duration of Spells
10 Casting Speed

Piece Listing
Chest
Name: Eirene's Hauberk- cleric
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Piety
Effect 2: 5 Thrust Effect 3: 5 Slash
Effect 4: 5 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Effect 5: 5 Piety Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Healing Effectiveness
Utility: 30.00

Arms
Name: Cleric Epic Arms
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 % Power Pool
Effect 3: 7 Slash
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Power Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 24.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Thrust - 99 Imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Crush - 99 Imperfect Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 68 Hits - 99 Flawless Blood Essence
5 acui cap
Utility: 61.67

Legs
Name: Cleric Epic Legs
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 % Power Pool
Effect 3: 7 Thrust
Effect 4: 5 Piety Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 6 Power Cap Increase
Utility: 24.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Piety - 99 Imperfect Watery Essence
Gem 2: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Crush - 99 Polished Fiery Shielding
Utility: 61.33
5 dex cap

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Dexterity - 99 Perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body - 99 Polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Cold - 99 Polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 20 Hits - 99 Rough Blood Essence
Utility: 59.67
5 buff bonus

Right Hand

Name: Cleric Dextera Mace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 % Power Pool
Effect 2: 4 Casting Speed
Effect 3: 4 Spell Range
Effect 4: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Healing Effectiveness
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase

Utility: 0.00
Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - 99 Flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body - 99 Polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Cold - 99 Polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 36 Hits - 99 Imperfect Blood Essence
Utility: 61.67

Neck
Name: Eternal Plant
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Cold
Effect 5: 5 Energy
Effect 6: 5 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Utility: 50.00

Cloak
Name: Cloak of the Zephyr
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 8 % Power Pool
Effect 3: 2 Casting Speed
Effect 4: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Power Cap Increase
Utility: 10.00

Jewel
Name: Egg Of Youth
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Acuity
Effect 2: 32 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Slash
Effect 5: 5 Thrust
Effect 6: 8 Healing Effectiveness
Effect 7: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 46.00

Belt
Name: jacina's
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Effect 2: 6 Duration of Spells
Effect 3: 5 % Power Pool
Effect 4: 5 Spell Range
Effect 5: 5 Power Cap Increase
Utility: 0.00

Right Ring
Name: Immolated
Level: 51 Quality: 94
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Acuity
Effect 3: 8 Energy
Effect 4: 8 Heat
Effect 5: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Utility: 52.00

Left Ring
Name: Scorpion Tail Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 % Power Pool
Effect 2: 4 Casting Speed
Effect 3: 8 AF
Effect 4: 6 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Effect 5: 6 Healing Effectiveness
Utility: 0.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: Bracer of Zo'arkat
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Acuity
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 5 Body
Effect 4: 5 Spirit
Effect 5: 6 % Power Pool
Effect 6: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 42.00

 

[Napshot]

look oki nothign fancy run with wat u like