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[Frustrated]

- The re-use time of Forceful Zephyr has been increased from 2 minutes to 15 minutes to make the ability more situational in use as opposed to something that is used in every fight.

 

[Robin the Brave]

Should be more like 30 minutes and removed from damage dealing classes, oh and remove grapple aswell

 

[echekiel]

hmm 1.73 its when WoW 2 is out ?

 

[Killrake]

It should be a quickfix IMHO and 20 min timer or more

 

[Draylor]

Only 1 year late

 

[Eregion]

leave it as it is

 

[Dorin]

wow mythic realised FZ is retarded .... oh my god how smart ><

what about grapple dear mythic?

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

Stupid change... FZ was fine on 2 mins, heck make it 5... But then, change it so that the person FZ'ed can no longer be damaged in anyway...

15 minutes is (imho) too long for something that only removes someone out of a group for 10s... Yes I'm talking about group fights... In zerg fights, FZ has no effect at all...

In 1 vs 1 (or something similar in size), FZ is overpowered in the fact that the person will most likely be dead by the time FZ ends... Which is why I think it gets most of the whines... No damage while FZ'ed would solve that...

 

[Solarius]

Stupid change... FZ was fine on 2 mins, heck make it 5... But then, change it so that the person FZ'ed can no longer be damaged in anyway...

15 minutes is (imho) too long for something that only removes someone out of a group for 10s... Yes I'm talking about group fights... In zerg fights, FZ has no effect at all...

In 1 vs 1 (or something similar in size), FZ is overpowered in the fact that the person will most likely be dead by the time FZ ends... Which is why I think it gets most of the whines... No damage while FZ'ed would solve that...

/agree

The 2 min reuse timer is still almost double the length of a stun immunity timer, so don't think anyone would be worried if it was changed in the above suggested way!

 

[Draylor]

FZ was fine on 2 mins

Not convinced youd think that if you still played Alb, with typically 0-1 Sojurners in group.

Since the availability of ML paths between viable group classes is so unbalanced (and unlikely to change) changing the reuse timer is long overdue.

If all realms had equal access to it the whine count would be far lower, but since they havent .....

 

[katt!]

Stupid change... FZ was fine on 2 mins

I HEAR THE CRACK IS QUITE GOOD OVER THERE IN MID.

 

[Sinnica]

lol

 

[Danya]

Half the prob with FZ is that unlike a stun you can't purge it.

 

[Qtwo]

Well If any class had a 10 sec Insta stunn that could not be purged noone would argue it's was overpowered.
Mythic knows it's overpowered, but for reasons unknown(Prolly wanna sell more TOA upgrades) chose to make it that way. In time all classes that can have it will have it and FZ would be flying everywhere all the time on a 2 min timer. It would be more important to have FZ than good spec equipment ect.
FZ taking skill. Sure, the kind of skill that everyone can master at least to a very usefull degree so that argument cant be used either.
Bottom line is that it is overpowered and will be more and more common on the battlefield.

 

[Nalistah]

mythic are _complete_ retards

they notice this huge problem now.. after looong time.. and 15min is to short.

 

[Spamb0t]

should make it shorter timer.. i need several zephyrs per fight ;-(((

 

[Aussie]

make it aoe

 

[RaiztliN]

make it aoe

2300 range, and speed6 movement, 500 radius?

 

[Kagato]

Its nice the recognise its a problem, but as per usual the fix makes no sense.

The reuse timer is annoying, but NOT the actual problem of FZ, the problem is the ability itself, not its frequency, is over powered.

It should of been changed to work just like people riding horses etc, they cannot be damaged until the end of the ride by any means, or at the very least, not by melee. If they did that I wouldn't care what timer its on.

The perfect compromise i'd say is 5 minute timer and immune to damage until the end of the effect. Making it an escape tool or something to give the caster time to prepare their next move.

Anyway, now they just need to beef up the shitty mls and fix bodyguard and grapple.

 

[Divinia]

It should be a quickfix IMHO and 20 min timer or more

Yes! lets hotfix something that only have influence on rvr balance!!! like its concidered important compared to bugs like erineres shit.

 

[Claudius]

15 min reuse timer is not a huge nerf. Its going to be up most of the time anyway.

 

[Flimgoblin]

It should of been changed to work just like people riding horses etc, they cannot be damaged until the end of the ride by any means, or at the very least, not by melee. If they did that I wouldn't care what timer its on.

you can nuke people on horses

 

[Belomar]

Bah!

 

[Gethin]

I always thought the timer was overpowered on FZ not what it does. Increasing it to 15 mins is a sensible timer.

 

[Alithiel]

Now they just need to do the same to grapple!

 

[liloe]

like it's gonna matter for archers who stand on some bridge, nuking a million miles away. Was uber in OF for solo archers I guess, but it has lost some of it's utility (I think). In group fights, well 15mins is not a long timer.

 

[Light]

better try and fire it as much as possible then before it gets nerfed

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

There are tons of ways to keep someone out of a fight for 10s... Yes, the timer should perhaps be increased to 5 minutes... And then make the person immume for damage until FZ has ended...

It has its uses in a FG vs FG fight, but no I personally (in FG vs FG fights) dont find it overpowered... MoC1 + Amnesia would do the same, and would be up more often then FZ and longer...

A lot of times its 'overpowered' because the person being FZ'ed is killed before it ends, this mostly happens (imho) in solo / small group fights... Damage immunity would solve this to a large extend...

And for everyone that is bitching 'but mids have 3 fzs', after this patch we will still have 3! Strangely enough, that will still be more then the other realms...

I was hit by a scout (Smoran) yesterday in a tower by something that kept me interrupted for longer then 10s, but apparently 'thats ok'... (and no it wasnt volley, and no he wasnt hitting me with an arrow, some guildie said it was some javalin type thing?)

 

[Claudius]

There are tons of ways to keep someone out of a fight for 10s... Yes, the timer should perhaps be increased to 5 minutes... And then make the person immume for damage until FZ has ended...

It has its uses in a FG vs FG fight, but no I personally (in FG vs FG fights) dont find it overpowered... MoC1 + Amnesia would do the same, and would be up more often then FZ and longer...

A lot of times its 'overpowered' because the person being FZ'ed is killed before it ends, this mostly happens (imho) in solo / small group fights... Damage immunity would solve this to a large extend...

And for everyone that is bitching 'but mids have 3 fzs', after this patch we will still have 3! Strangely enough, that will still be more then the other realms...

I was hit by a scout (Smoran) yesterday in a tower by something that kept me interrupted for longer then 10s, but apparently 'thats ok'... (and no it wasnt volley, and no he wasnt hitting me with an arrow, some guildie said it was some javalin type thing?)

Making people damage immune when FZ'ed would indeed do a lot to rebalance the ability, much more than just changing the timer. I dont see this happening though.

The spear is pretty strong in this patch, but will eventually get nerfed in 1.72, so hang in there:

- The Javelins of Flame summoned by the Golden Spear artifact now have a reduced range and radius. Additionally, players will not be able to summon the Javelins if they already have some in their inventory.

 

[tedStar]

I was hit by a scout (Smoran) yesterday in a tower by something that kept me interrupted for longer then 10s, but apparently 'thats ok'... (and no it wasnt volley, and no he wasnt hitting me with an arrow, some guildie said it was some javalin type thing?)

javalin = golden spear level 10