Template for yet another Scout

Chorend

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Anyone have a link or SC/ToA template ready for a scout? mine's not quite ready yet so i thought i'd try and get the items and scrolls ready for the arti's before i get him to 50.
 

Edaemos

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You really need to say how much your looking at spending and what kinda items/artifacts you wanna use, i mean i could post you mine and you might cry at some of the items, so need a bit more input mate :)
 

Chorend

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I was thinking along the lines of these arti's

Braggarts, GSV, Shark gloves, SoM, not sure what other arti's items are required for a scout, money is not really an object. I can make MP armor myself also. and have access to a lgm sc'er.

Thx for reply btw.

why's my sig vanished ????
 

Edaemos

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I have those artifacts as well, ok you want to be looking at +26 dex cap, now best way to reach this imho is either 2 shaitan bracers(what i use, they allow more flexibilty in your template) or 1 shaitan bracer and the ml9.10 pheonix legs. Both items have 2% bow speed on which is crucial. The bracer will set you back 50p each, legs i presume about the same. In terms of rings, id go zahurs/ring of the heavens/silent oblivion depending on your spec ie thrust or slash. Also are you gonna build the template around your spec/playstyle?

Items i use in my templates (i have 3 full sc templates from chaning)

Zahurs ring 50p
Oblivion Ring 50p+
Ring of the heavens (house 215 35p innocent plug :D )
Shaitan wind bracer 50p
Ml9.10 legs 50p+
Traldors belt 20p+

I lost all my templates on a HD failure, when its up ill do my current SC and post if for you.
 

Chorend

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Thank you m8, ill keep a check on this thread. I've got plenty of time yet and money is rolling in nicely, so i can start getting some items in.

<nice innocent plug btw> :)
<server being down made me post something i've been wanting to do for a few weeks> :)
 

eggy

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This is the one I used, although scout is the most dull class you can imagine playing.

Template is designed around Fools bow. Stats shown are with bow equipped.

You can use any weapon without decreasing your dex (stays at 101..I'm thrust), and stats on the weapon just add to the melee bonuses. You can use other bows as long as they have some +Longbow on them.

Quickness should be around 250 with the 45 in template, which is the cap for archer classes.

You could spend 200+ plat getting 4% more archery speed etc, but if you play scout for a laugh every so often I don't think it'll really matter. Not bad imo anyway.


Config Report

Stats

Str: 80 Int: 0 Hits: 200
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 101 Cha: 0
Qui: 45 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 6 Crush: 25
Cold: 26 Matter: 0 Thrust: 26
Heat: 25 Spirit: 26 Slash: 26

Skills

11 Longbow
11 Stealth
4 Thrust


Cap Increases

26 Dex
14 Qui
7 Str

Other Bonuses

6 Archery Speed Bonus
10 Archery Range Bonus
7 Archery Damage Bonus
7 Melee Speed Bonus
10 AF Bonus


Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GSV
Level: 51 Quality: 99
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 4 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.0

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99 precious Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 3 Longbow - 99 rough Airy War Sigil
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Utility: 62.6666666667

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99 precious Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 3: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Spirit Resist - 99 imperfect Vapor Shielding
Utility: 61.6666666667

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Utility: 64.6666666667

Hands
Name: Sharkskin Gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 99
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Longbow
Effect 2: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 3 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Heat Resist
Effect 8: 4 Cold Resist
Effect 9: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 1 Slash Resist - 99 raw Watery Shielding
Utility: 58.6666666667

Right Hand
Name: Heat Leg
Level: 51 Quality: 99
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 28 Dexterity
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.6666666667

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Thrust - 99 imperfect Dusty War Sigil
Gem 3: 5 Shield - 99 imperfect Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Crush Resist - 99 raw Fiery Shielding
Utility: 64.6666666667

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Ranged
Name: Fool's Bow
Level: 51 Quality: 99
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Longbow
Effect 4: 3 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 6: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 49.0

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.0

Jewel
Name: Roman Coin
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Hits
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 54.0

Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 28.0

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Souls
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Stealth
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 13 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.6666666667

Left Ring
Name: Krojer's Dex Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Dexterity
Effect 2: 2 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 2 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 2 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.0

Right Wrist
Name: Blackened Wrap
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Quickness
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 85.0

Left Wrist
Name: Blackened Wrap
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Quickness
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 85.0
 

Edaemos

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Exinferis said:
emm...uhm.... 220pp+ for a template...

thats just wrong

Thats not including artifacts/scrolls/mend tinctures :( *cries*
 

scorge

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here is my Melee scout template, you can swap GoV for GSV if you like, cant find my sniper template

Mimir's Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 875.7
Useable Utility: 858.3
TOA Utility: 272.0

Statistics
STR:99/88 CON:75/75 DEX:110/101
QUI:50/82 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:216/200
Power:0/25
AF:20/50

Resistances
Body: 22
Cold: 25
Heat: 26+5
Energy: 25
Matter: 24
Spirit: 21
Crush: 25
Slash: 25+2
Thrust: 24+3

Skills
Longbow: 6
Stealth: 11
Slash: 2
Thrust: 11
Shield: 5
Staff: 2

Bonuses
Archery Range: 3
Archery Speed: 5
Style Damage: 3
Melee Damage: 9
Melee Combat Speed: 11
Fatigue: 5

Ranged Configuration:
Build Utility: 888.7
Useable Utility: 884.7
TOA Utility: 277.0

Statistics
STR:72/88 CON:75/75 DEX:101/101
QUI:68/82 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:216/200
Power:0/25
AF:20/50

Resistances
Body: 22
Cold: 25
Heat: 26+5
Energy: 25
Matter: 24
Spirit: 21
Crush: 25
Slash: 25+2
Thrust: 24+3

Skills
Longbow: 11
Stealth: 11
Slash: 2
Thrust: 11
Shield: 5
Staff: 2

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 3
Archery Range: 6
Archery Speed: 8
Melee Damage: 5
Melee Combat Speed: 9
Fatigue: 5

Chest (guard of valor):
Imbue: 22.0
Gem 1: 40 Hits
Gem 2: 18 Strength
Gem 3: 15 Dexterity
Gem 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 6: 5 Melee Damage
Gem 7: 0 Style Damage
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 45.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 5 Thrust
Gem 2: 10 Dexterity
Gem 3: 9 Cold
Gem 4: 7 Heat
Utility: 63.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head (WInged Helm):
Imbue: 28.0
Gem 1: 40 Hits
Gem 2: 5 Fatigue
Gem 3: 15 Dexterity
Gem 4: 15 Strength
Gem 5: 10 AF
Gem 6: 5 Spirit
Gem 7: 5 Matter
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Legs (pants of the transfixer):
Imbue: 24.5
Gem 1: 3 All Archery
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity
Gem 3: 19 Quickness
Gem 4: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 5: 2 Archery Speed
Utility: 40.3
TOA Utility: 30.0

Hands (Mariashas sharkskin gloves):
Imbue: 28.0
Gem 1: 3 All Archery
Gem 2: 3 Archery Range
Gem 3: 3 Archery Speed
Gem 4: 4 Crush
Gem 5: 4 Slash
Gem 6: 4 Thrust
Gem 7: 4 Cold
Gem 8: 4 Heat
Gem 9: 4 Energy
Utility: 63.0
TOA Utility: 30.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 5 Shield
Gem 2: 11 Slash
Gem 3: 13 Constitution
Gem 4: 2 Stealth
Utility: 65.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Cooc tooth dagger):
Imbue: 27.0
Gem 1: 27 Dexterity
Gem 2: 27 Strength
Gem 3: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Gem 4: 3 Style Damage
Gem 5: 4 Melee Damage
Utility: 36.0
TOA Utility: 45.0

Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 9 Heat
Gem 2: 7 Energy
Gem 3: 22 Constitution
Gem 4: 4 Thrust
Utility: 66.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Ranged (Fools Bow):
Imbue: 32.0
Gem 1: 18 Dexterity
Gem 2: 18 Quickness
Gem 3: 3 Archery Speed
Gem 4: 3 Archery Range
Gem 5: 3 Archery Damage
Gem 6: 5 All Archery
Utility: 49.0
TOA Utility: 45.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
Gem 1: 10 Body
Gem 2: 10 Thrust
Gem 3: 10 Spirit
Gem 4: 10 Crush
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
Imbue: 20.0
Gem 1: 3 Stealth
Gem 2: 15 Strength
Gem 3: 15 Quickness
Gem 4: 10 AF
Gem 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0

Jewel (Harpy Feather Charm):
Imbue: 31.0
Gem 1: 44 Hits
Gem 2: 6 Body
Gem 3: 6 Heat
Gem 4: 6 Cold
Gem 5: 6 Matter
Utility: 59.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (twisted hair of malmais):
Imbue: 21.0
Gem 1: 24 Dexterity
Gem 2: 3 Stealth
Gem 3: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 4: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 31.0
TOA Utility: 42.0

Left Ring (zahurs ring):
Imbue: 40.0
Gem 1: 60 Hits
Gem 2: 6 Body
Gem 3: 6 Cold
Gem 4: 6 Energy
Gem 5: 6 Matter
Gem 6: 6 Spirit
Utility: 75.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (ring of silent oblivion):
Imbue: 41.0
Gem 2: 24 Constitution
Gem 3: 24 Strength
Gem 4: 32 Hits
Gem 5: 8 Energy
Gem 6: 7 Matter
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (blackened wrap):
Imbue: 24.0
Gem 1: 16 Constitution
Gem 2: 16 Quickness
Gem 3: 2 All Melee
Gem 4: 3 Stealth
Gem 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 46.3
TOA Utility: 28.0

Right Wrist (cyclone bracer):
Imbue: 38.0
Gem 1: 10 Thrust
Gem 2: 11 Crush
Gem 3: 10 Slash
Gem 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
 

Thorwyn

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ok... lets consider - just for a minute - that for some obscure reason, people don´t have 200p and the time to farm them. Is there any semi decent template available for a non-melee scout (50 bow, 42 shield etc.) with the following artis available: som, gsv, msg, braggarts, bos, battler, cb? Basically, I´m looking for decent jewelry at a reasonable price (i.e. like 50p for the entire thing).

Anyone got a template like this floating around?
 

Jaem-

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If you've not much cash, then probs best just getting GSV as its easy to get encounter done and scrolls are reasonably priced, and mainly get +dex cap items.

Using dex cap items is prob cheapest, easiest and quickest way to gain a huge amount of bow dmg in my opinion at least.

Bracer from ml1 island, if you have a mincer friend, he can go grab a Sally.
2 Rings from ML1.5 encounter is pretty good, and soloable.
Studded SoM boots maybe.

With those your looking at around 24 ish dexcap.
 

Thorwyn

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err... I already HAVE all those artis :) Just need the rest of the template and jewelry etc. ;)

But yeah, Krojers rings, Blackened Bracers (although a rare drop :)) and maybe CB should do get me pretty far. I just thought someone had a decent template without all the uber jewelry stuff.
 

Thorwyn

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yup.. done that eggy. But the two rings alone are 100p+ :(

/em starts farming.... :)
 

eggy

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Thorwyn[B&Q] said:
yup.. done that eggy. But the two rings alone are 100p+ :(

/em starts farming.... :)

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Souls
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Stealth
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 13 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.6666666667

Left Ring
Name: Krojer's Dex Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Dexterity
Effect 2: 2 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 2 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 2 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.0

??

Quest items
 

Thorwyn

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doh... sorry, nerf sloppy reading :)

Thanks, I`ll try that.
 

Foo

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yup i personaly wear 2 krojers / 2 ebon hide bracers all quest items
 

Matmardigan

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got 1 of the best templates which i have seen till now from an friend, dunno from where he got it, maybe he did it himself.

Config Report with Bow:

Stats

Str: 33 Int: 0 Hits: 232
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 96 Cha: 0
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 26 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 22 Thrust: 23 (3)
Heat: 30 (5) Spirit: 24 Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

11 Longbow

11 Stealth

3 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

21 Dex

5 Qui

40 Hits

Other Bonuses

8 Archery Damage Bonus

10 Fatigue

5 Melee Speed Bonus

7 Archery Speed Bonus

11 Archery Range Bonus

20 AF Bonus

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Config Report with Weapon/Shield:

Stats

Str: 68 Int: 0 Hits: 232
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 96 Cha: 0
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 26 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 22 Thrust: 27 (3)
Heat: 30 (5) Spirit: 24 Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

8 Longbow

11 Stealth

11 Shield

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

15 Dex

40 Hits

Other Bonuses

4 Archery Damage Bonus

5 Fatigue

5 Melee Speed Bonus

5 Archery Speed Bonus

7 Archery Range Bonus

20 AF Bonus
 

Haton

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Chorend said:
Anyone have a link or SC/ToA template ready for a scout? mine's not quite ready yet so i thought i'd try and get the items and scrolls ready for the arti's before i get him to 50.
delete the scout and play the armsman :wub:
 

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Matmardigan said:
got 1 of the best templates which i have seen till now from an friend, dunno from where he got it, maybe he did it himself.

You should post that instead of this crap one.
 

Edaemos

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Matmardigan said:
got 1 of the best templates which i have seen till now from an friend, dunno from where he got it, maybe he did it himself.

Config Report with Bow:

Stats

Str: 33 Int: 0 Hits: 232
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 96 Cha: 0
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 26 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 22 Thrust: 23 (3)
Heat: 30 (5) Spirit: 24 Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

11 Longbow

11 Stealth

3 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

21 Dex

5 Qui

40 Hits

Other Bonuses

8 Archery Damage Bonus

10 Fatigue

5 Melee Speed Bonus

7 Archery Speed Bonus

11 Archery Range Bonus

20 AF Bonus

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Config Report with Weapon/Shield:

Stats

Str: 68 Int: 0 Hits: 232
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 96 Cha: 0
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 26 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 22 Thrust: 27 (3)
Heat: 30 (5) Spirit: 24 Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

8 Longbow

11 Stealth

11 Shield

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

15 Dex

40 Hits

Other Bonuses

4 Archery Damage Bonus

5 Fatigue

5 Melee Speed Bonus

5 Archery Speed Bonus

7 Archery Range Bonus

20 AF Bonus


Heheh using that template would be asking to die, if you used that id suggest speccing 50 shield 50 stealth and rest in slash for the complete gimp feeling :p
 

enigma

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eggy said:
You should post that instead of this crap one.

What's so crap about that template?

It's not perfect, and I'd like to know what items are used, because with arties and other special items the abilities you get can justify shortcuts to some extent.

But the end stats there aren't crap, except the low qui.

edit: am I overlooking something? can't find any particulary weak things that is 'like begging to die'.
 

Matmardigan

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Edaemos said:
Heheh using that template would be asking to die, if you used that id suggest speccing 50 shield 50 stealth and rest in slash for the complete gimp feeling :p

template is made 4 an low rr shield speced scout, dunno with 18, maybe 21points in weapon.

Template have good resists, caped skills and oki'sh stats.
Toa bonus sux, but u cant have everything caped.

so i would be disapointed from u if ur serious. :)
 

[e]

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Matmardigan said:
template is made 4 an low rr shield speced scout, dunno with 18, maybe 21points in weapon.

Template have good resists, caped skills and oki'sh stats.
Toa bonus sux, but u cant have everything caped.

so i would be disapointed from u if ur serious. :)

good think you try not to be overpowered m8 :cheers:
 

Exinferis

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wth, what are you leet scouts seeing that im not seeing, i see a template that is good, and it proberly wont cost a gazillion plats to get
 

Edaemos

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In bow mode he hasnt reached 100/101 dex which is easy, i have that on my pve suit. His quickness is 27, which is very bad, in melee mode str isnt 75 so hes losing weaponskill and again quickness is still 27. Not capping quickness is suicide, no +shield either but that is as big a problem as the others. If i get chance today ill do a template that doesnt cost silly plats.

Looks like hes sacrificed normal bonuses for ToA ones.
 

Matmardigan

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Edaemos said:
In bow mode he hasnt reached 100/101 dex which is easy, i have that on my pve suit. His quickness is 27, which is very bad, in melee mode str isnt 75 so hes losing weaponskill and again quickness is still 27. Not capping quickness is suicide, no +shield either but that is as big a problem as the others. If i get chance today ill do a template that doesnt cost silly plats.

Looks like hes sacrificed normal bonuses for ToA ones.

4 dex cap more or less dont change much, dmg will be nearly same, its not noticeable.

Even with 75+25 str cap the weaponskill of an 18 slash/thrust speced scout dont will be high enough. His melee will SUX.

Quickness isnt high aye.
Only point 2 discuss about.
Bow draw time will be slower than caped Quick. <- weakest point in template.

But the higher Resists will be better in most of the situations than caped Quickness.

The Evade-/swingrate isnt much important cause if he gets into melee he will die anyways if he cant slam/FZ his opponent.

Toa bonus wasnt capable anymore without gimping the Resists.

So ur point uncaped Quickness=Dead/Suicide isnt true.

Made alot of experience since i started 2 play my scout, and in the end its always the resists which lets u live longer. And with nearly caped Resists + AoM/Pd ull live longer than just with caped Quickness.

So ur point isnt correct.
 

Edaemos

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Matmardigan said:
4 dex cap more or less dont change much, dmg will be nearly same, its not noticeable.

But its not capped, and if your concentrating on bow since hes 18 thrust/slash then sure capping +dex makes sence? no?


Matmardigan said:
Even with 75+25 str cap the weaponskill of an 18 slash/thrust speced scout dont will be high enough. His melee will SUX.

Still no exscuse imho not to cap things, chance to slam is based on melee WS, if your not capping your melee stats (st or str/dex) then his chance to slam lowers.

Matmardigan said:
Quickness isnt high aye.
Only point 2 discuss about.
Bow draw time will be slower than caped Quick. <- weakest point in template.

But the higher Resists will be better in most of the situations than caped Quickness.

The Evade-/swingrate isnt much important cause if he gets into melee he will die anyways if he cant slam/FZ his opponent.

So your slamming with lowered WS due to not capping your melee stats, you want to get as many bow shots as possible during slam or fz, yet you havent capped quickness, it doesnt make sense at all, if your gonna play one way then make your sc to those strengths, if he is 50 bow which it sounds like with 18 thrust or slash then surely he wants 9% bow speed, capped dex and capped quick? yet this template doesnt offer this.


Matmardigan said:
Toa bonus wasnt capable anymore without gimping the Resists.

So ur point uncaped Quickness=Dead/Suicide isnt true.

Made alot of experience since i started 2 play my scout, and in the end its always the resists which lets u live longer. And with nearly caped Resists + AoM/Pd ull live longer than just with caped Quickness.

So ur point isnt correct.

Resists are good yes, but some you can have some of them a touch lower or make use of racial bonuses, but if your counting on slam/fz to win fights and not capping your bow skills to make the most when you use these abilities then resists arent gonna save you.

Your template idoesnt fit the spec of the player ie 50 bow, 42 shield etc, its a poor template as i said, im not meaning to be offensive but would rather tell the truth and help than not. If i had to make a template from lower end stuff it certainly wouldnt be like that.
 

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