Baseline stun on casters

Ckiller

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Have to ask hib casters do u really think its ok to have a almost i-win button?? dont u guys want more from the game?
 

Zeelee

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i feel some strong whine in this post .... u better hide :flame:
 

Archeon

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I guess they could always not use it, lets make it the new FoTM. From now on it is offically not cool to play your class properly, you have to stop using atleast one of your abilities.

Stealthers, from now on using stealth is lame.
Casters, from now on CC is lame.
Tanks, from now on meleeing is lame.
Support can only heal because god only knows everything else they do is lame.

I think your onto somthing with this 'don't use abilites' thing, it'll revolutionise RvR...
 

Loxleyhood

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Archeon said:
I guess they could always not use it, lets make it the new FoTM. From now on it is offically not cool to play your class properly, you have to stop using atleast one of your abilities.

Stealthers, from now on using stealth is lame.
Casters, from now on CC is lame.
Tanks, from now on meleeing is lame.
Support can only heal because god only knows everything else they do is lame.

I think your onto somthing with this 'don't use abilites' thing, it'll revolutionise RvR...

Score for Jimmy.
 

Muylaetrix

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...alb got bolt range mezz.



so 1 spec on 1 caster class has a range advantage that gets more than nulified by the fact that all other realms have insta cc...

mezz and root don`t kill, stun does.

not being able to move or do something is not half as bad as having to wait 9 secs and hope your clerics heals you for 3-4k health in those 9 secs.

ffs. without cb charge up i often lose from my own bb when i duel her. that stun just fooks casters.

is a stun on a caster class who can kill their target during the duration of the stun balanced... no. at least my cleric has trouble to do enough damage to kill me during 9 secs. all hib caster classes are able to kill of their target while it is stunned.
 

Stunned

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Its situational, purge moc and basline lifetap > hib casters. In NF both will be on 5 mins timers, 75 % dmg but still good.

So, Have to ask alb casters ( non elementalists ) "do u really think its ok to have a almost i-win button?? dont u guys want more from the game?"
 

[NO]Magmatic

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I dont get it, I never found base-line stun a problem, most of the good hibs dont use it that often anyhow... Its useless in PvE, it has its use in RvR sure, but its not an i-win button...

If the rest of your group does their job correctly, you should never have to fear a hib-caster using it...
 

Zeelee

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9 sec ? u kinda deserve to die if u have 0 resistens imo ...
 

[NO]Magmatic

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Zeelee said:
9 sec ? u kinda deserve to die if u have 0 resistens imo ...
9s is easy if he gets heat-debuffed before stunned... Seeing he most likely doesnt have anything in group that gives heat-resist buffs... Means bye bye heat resist, means full duration stun...
 

Ilienwyn

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Stunned said:
Its situational, purge moc and basline lifetap > hib casters. In NF both will be on 5 mins timers, 75 % dmg but still good.

So, Have to ask alb casters ( non elementalists ) "do u really think its ok to have a almost i-win button?? dont u guys want more from the game?"


Oh yeah, 2 ras and 1 spell is instantwin button now? How ironic :m00:

PS: Oh, what happened with the 2 out of 3 mid casters that also have lifedrain? :m00:

Dorin said:
its ingame from start, dont whine about it imo ><


Yes it is but casters don't do same damage now with TOA as they did 2 years ago...
 

Aussie

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9 sec stun vs 26% resists : 6,6sec
9 sec stun vs 42% resists : 5,2sec

nukes at 1,2sec , Possible WP , MoM, Pierce , ...


but guess what's overpowered ?

(19:07:45) (@Garbannoch) btw fucking nerf stun on hib casters in bg1
(19:07:47) (@Garbannoch) and bg1 only


the 2 sec casttime nukes in thidranki where the stun lasts max 5 secs :m00:
 

crispy

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maybe its about time took the power relics from us if we kill you so fast? :p
 

Qaewin

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Muylaetrix said:
...alb got bolt range mezz.



so 1 spec on 1 caster class has a range advantage that gets more than nulified by the fact that all other realms have insta cc...

When speedwarped range>insta. When every1 has cb's up range + castspeed > insta + low castspeed.
A well timed insta amnesia from bard can win it but with silly cast times sorcs can win mezz more times than they loose it if there toa'd and good. And ofc we could qq gp pr bof and sos but lets not :)

Muylaetrix said:
mezz and root don`t kill, stun does.

Mezz is more likely to get you killed than stun is. If your st stunned healers can still heal you, if your mezzed your healers probably are as well. Also unless you have moc up what can you accomplish when your being nuked by an assist train even if your mezz is broken.
 

Stunned

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Ilienwyn said:
Oh yeah, 2 ras and 1 spell is instantwin button now? How ironic :m00:

PS: Oh, what happened with the 2 out of 3 mid casters that also have lifedrain? :m00:




Yes it is but casters don't do same damage now with TOA as they did 2 years ago...

What are you on about !? 1. Abilities you can use in every fight with NF. 2. I commented the discussion albs/vs hibs that was building up in the thread.


Anything else ?
 

Aeicaan

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why qq about something all realms have? not on the same chars as caster but all realms have castable stun and thats the game
 

Chilly

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moc is a 15 minute timer, regardless of level, purge is only 5 min timer if you spend 30 points on it, so your saying you need to spend ALL of rr7 on moc+purge just to beat a 1l1 level 50 chanter?

Fuck you, urmum and her dog.
 

Snakester

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Aeicaan said:
why qq about something all realms have? not on the same chars as caster but all realms have castable stun and thats the game
give my cleric quickcast then.
 

Icebreaker

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While you are at it. Remove Healer instas, FZ, grapple, bg, Sorc bolt range mezz, Savages, SM Pets and Thanes.
 

Mavl

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dont forget pala healchant. it was deemed as overpowered by some hib one time.
 

[NO]Subedai

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ye all realms have stun, and ye good clerics will assist stun when possible, but its nowhere near as effective as having nuke and stun on same class.

but key hib casters like to stun me and hand out free grapple immunity, so long let it continue :drink:
 

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