WTA arcanium Astral Blade of Illusions [alb]

Jooowan · Jan 9, 2006

starting bid 45P for this nice arcanium Astral Blade of Illusions
Buyout: 85P (item is at House 43 on Prydwen)
Auction ends thursday January 12th 2006 23h GMT

An ueber mainhand slasher with a cool flying sword (=elemental) interrupter that lasts for 24 secs.
(c) Aiteal :worthy: for a nice illustration of the proc

Damage Type: Slash
DPS: 16.50
Spd: 4.1
Magical Bonuses:
Crush: 8%
Thrust: 7%
Slash: 3 pts

Item Bonuses:
Bonus to melee damage: 2% (vs Player Races)
Bonus to style damage: 2% (vs Player Races)
Bonus to Strength attribute bonus cap: 10

Magical Ability: Summon Elemental (Summons an elemental Spirit to attack the target)

Damage Modifiers
16,5 Base DPS
16,2 Clamped DPS
4,1 Weapon Speed
100% Quality
100% Condition

Effective Damage:
16,2 DPS

friky · Jan 9, 2006

Lol

45 Plat no chance

Jooowan · Jan 9, 2006

I just received an offer for 50P :fluffle:

Turran · Jan 9, 2006

friky said:
45 Plat no chance

Friky it is worth around that, its a nice sword. Look at the proc,

Straef · Jan 10, 2006

Turran said:
Friky it is worth around that, its a nice sword. Look at the proc,

It might be worth it, eventually, but it's a rather shitty starting bid.

Tosen · Jan 10, 2006

So much for not selling what you won yesterday, as the raid leader said

Jooowan · Jan 10, 2006

Got anonymous bid for 55P.
I like teh plats, got the other stuff (books, etc etc) on my chars already.
Thx!

chretien · Jan 10, 2006

First person ever who will be banned from my raids.

Danamyr · Jan 10, 2006

Oh well - the Raid Leader's conditions were quite clear I thought. Your greed has cost you...silly boy

Kami · Jan 10, 2006

should ban the person who buys it too Chretien

Suspect that's why the bid is anonymous though.. gimps

Infanity · Jan 10, 2006

Kami said:
should ban the person who buys it too Chretien Suspect that's why the bid is anonymous though.. gimps

Thats a bit harsh (no its not me buying, i dont know what 55plat looks like) But surely someone who wants an item thats for sale doesnt deserve a ban also.

Aiteal · Jan 10, 2006

Jooowan said:
An ueber mainhand slasher with a cool flying sword (=elemental) interrupter that lasts for 24 secs.
(c) Aiteal :worthy: for a nice illustration of the proc

Actually this clips funnier

Pirkel · Jan 10, 2006

Kami said:
should ban the person who buys it too Chretien Suspect that's why the bid is anonymous though.. gimps

It was me who bid ... I made the bid before I knew how he got it and as soon as I realised it was "dirty" (and way before your post) I canceled my bid.

Only reason I bid via pm is that this is my Mid FH account and I cba logging my old alb FH account anymore.

So kindly shut the fuck up.

Bubble · Jan 10, 2006

chretien said:
First person ever who will be banned from my raids.

What Guilds he in?

Jimmi · Jan 10, 2006

The greed is strong in this thread

Jooowan · Jan 10, 2006

For obvious reasons auction is stopped.
thanks.

Aoln · Jan 10, 2006

so now you're selling it in secret instead?

Rickie · Jan 10, 2006

Kami said:
should ban the person who buys it too Chretien Suspect that's why the bid is anonymous though.. gimps

Imo the bad part here is he was rolling for an item so many ppl want for there template and he dident even want it. :twak:

Noone cares who wanted to buy, - hell we all would if we could!

/mum

Pirkel · Jan 10, 2006

Rickie said:
Imo the bad part here is he was rolling for an item so many ppl want for there template and he dident even want it.
Noone cares who wanted to buy, - hell we all would if we could!

/mum

Nah I withdrew my bid ... I don't want an item that others who wanted/needed it could have won fair and square on a raid when the leader clearly stated that none of the drops were to be sold.

Vladamir · Jan 10, 2006

Rickie said:
Imo the bad part here is he was rolling for an item so many ppl want for there template and he dident even want it.
Noone cares who wanted to buy, - hell we all would if we could!

/mum

If i give my real opinion i'll probably get banned, so i'll make use of this instead

Aoln · Jan 10, 2006

So what happens now? Might aswell let him sell it, better than it sitting in his vault rather than some rich **** getting use of it

Erulin · Jan 11, 2006

Pirkel said:
Nah I withdrew my bid ... I don't want an item that others who wanted/needed it could have won fair and square on a raid when the leader clearly stated that none of the drops were to be sold.

To be honest the raidleader's words were :

"Lotto will be FFA, but I will be very upset if I see one of the items on CM's tomorrow."

Not : "If you win an item, you can't sell it"

Holding a class specific lotto and not a FFA one would/could have avoided this.

I agree it's not nice to the people on the raid who could have used it however. But we do live in a capitalist society... even in a game set in fuedal times it seems

Erulin the Bloody

ps : NO, I didn't bid on the crappy thing, all my alts are fluffy twinked already

Martok · Jan 11, 2006

Erulin said:
To be honest the raidleader's words were :

"Lotto will be FFA, but I will be very upset if I see one of the items on CM's tomorrow."

Not : "If you win an item, you can't sell it"

Holding a class specific lotto and not a FFA one would/could have avoided this.

I agree it's not nice to the people on the raid who could have used it however. But we do live in a capitalist society... even in a game set in fuedal times it seems

Erulin the Bloody

ps : NO, I didn't bid on the crappy thing, all my alts are fluffy twinked already

acturly since he took over a raid at very short notice he did not have time realy to get everything sorted thats inc class percific rolls 50 people all saying a class they wanted to roll for there and then kinda erm........ HARD.

Jooowan · Jan 11, 2006

Item won't be sold but used on my own scout once he reaches lvl50 (will still take some time as I'm not pl'ing him, but actually using /freelevel and scoring 1 level each week), as intended by the raid leader. Please don't pm me anymore with offers. Sorry for the misunderstanding...
thanks

chretien · Jan 11, 2006

Erulin said:
To be honest the raidleader's words were :

"Lotto will be FFA, but I will be very upset if I see one of the items on CM's tomorrow."

Not : "If you win an item, you can't sell it"

Holding a class specific lotto and not a FFA one would/could have avoided this.

I agree it's not nice to the people on the raid who could have used it however. But we do live in a capitalist society... even in a game set in fuedal times it seems

Erulin the Bloody

ps : NO, I didn't bid on the crappy thing, all my alts are fluffy twinked already

I did say that but most people saw the link between 'not putting it on CMs' and 'not selling the item'. I also said before the lotto that I expected people to be nice and not to roll for items they weren't going to use. I don't like class specific lottos for raids where the number of drops is quite low. It's not too bad for places like Sidi where there's a good range of items that drop and everyone will get the chance to roll on something but for ML10 or the dragon it's often the case that a lot of people won't be able to roll at all that way.

I've done 5 dragon rads and 2 ML10 raids recently with class specific lottos and over those 5 raids I was only able to roll for remains and stones as nothing dropped for the classed I specified. As I said before the lotto, most people have alts that can use the items they win so I have no problem with a caster rolling for a tank item for example.

To be fair to Belgochem, he's since PMed me and told me he's canned the auction and put the item on ice for his scout's final template. I am still cross however as there were many people on the raid (myself included) who dearly wanted that item to use right away. I have no 'power' to stop people selling stuff, I can't force you to keep it and if you do sell it then I can't make you undo the trade, it's an honour system and if you break my trust I shan't let you have a second chance.

Gazon · Jan 11, 2006

Belgochem told me he wasn't aware of the rules and missed your instructions. It was his first ML10. It was an understandable misunderstanding.

I was on the raid too. I didn't read the chat during the lotto. It had been a long raid and I was tired. I've done craploads of farm-ML10's and stuck by their lotto rules. And even for me it was possible to miss your instructions entirely and not notice the "lack of rules" in that FFA lotto. Therefore I found nothing wrong with several people around me selling their stuff at that time.

He won the item. He won't sell it now. It will be very useful to him on his new toon.

And we'll all try and pay better attention to instructions in the future, I'm sure... really... I promise... cookie?

Lorimez Shadowblade · Jan 11, 2006

Jooowan said:
Item won't be sold but used on my own scout once he reaches lvl50 (will still take some time as I'm not pl'ing him, but actually using /freelevel and scoring 1 level each week), as intended by the raid leader. Please don't pm me anymore with offers. Sorry for the misunderstanding...
thanks

Takes a decent player to admit a mistake and to rectify it. I say well done for the change of heart, which was the moral thing to do. I salute you Jooowan :cheers:

/bow

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