subclass list and tree

scorge · Oct 4, 2005

follow link:

need micosoft excel or excel viewer to view

http://home.ptd.net/~ateam/subclass.xls

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Ocalinn · Oct 4, 2005

Shield of Elements in acolyte line will be pretty good for albs

scorge · Oct 4, 2005

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scorge · Oct 4, 2005

Champion weapon heal over time and friar heal over time how do they compare, should the friar HoT be enhanced?

friar
Heal over Time (Group) Champions encoragement
duration 15 seconds, (frequency 3 seconds?)
67 HP
cost 94 power

so 335Hp over 15 seconds (if frequency is right)

Champion weapon /use

5% Heal All Over Time
Duration 30s 5s frequency

so 30% healed to all bars over 30seconds.

not sure yet if %heal bonus from ToA items effects anything

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Sollac · Oct 4, 2005

awesome armsman with self buffing ability......about time,

Laston · Oct 4, 2005

scorge said:
Champion weapon heal over time and friar heal over time how do they compare, should the friar HoT be enhanced?

friar
Heal over Time (Group) Champions encoragement
duration 15 seconds, (frequency 3 seconds?)
67 HP
cost 94 power

so 335Hp over 15 seconds (if frequency is right)

Champion weapon /use

5% Heal All Over Time
Duration 30s 5s frequency

so 30% healed to all bars over 30seconds.

not sure yet if %heal bonus from ToA items effects anything

afaik the Friar HoT is more of a "Regen" type so it's like 1 tick every 14 sec in combat instead

Flimgoblin · Oct 4, 2005

friar HoT is a proper heal over time which ticks every 3 seconds.

Andrilyn · Oct 4, 2005

Don't know if anyone knows this but I'll ask anyway, If I would take the deciple d/q buff would it stack with my normal Cleric d/q buff? Or doesn't that work?
Damage seems kinda low on the nukes but then again better to keep it that way else you'd get some overpowered combinations (Reminds me of the good old Stun > Smite > Smite days

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Flimgoblin · Oct 4, 2005

scorge said:
Champion weapon heal over time and friar heal over time how do they compare, should the friar HoT be enhanced?

friar
Heal over Time (Group) Champions encoragement
duration 15 seconds, (frequency 3 seconds?)
67 HP
cost 94 power

so 335Hp over 15 seconds (if frequency is right)

Champion weapon /use

5% Heal All Over Time
Duration 30s 5s frequency

so 30% healed to all bars over 30seconds.

not sure yet if %heal bonus from ToA items effects anything

friar hot is a specline spell so 25% bonus there, +% heal bonus will help the friar - doubt it'll affect the champion weapon (anyone know if +%heal affects the warlord abilities?)

potential 628 hp healed from the friar hot which is a bit better... still pretty mince - double the delves

Flimgoblin · Oct 4, 2005

Andrilyn said:
Don't know if anyone knows this but I'll ask anyway, If I would take the deciple d/q buff would it stack with my normal Cleric d/q buff? Or doesn't that work?
Damage seems kinda low on the nukes but then again better to keep it that way else you'd get some overpowered combinations (Reminds me of the good old Stun > Smite > Smite days ).

they don't stack.

all the spells have a fixed casting time (unaffected by dex)

Isunder · Oct 4, 2005

scorge said:
Spell: Vitality Seize

Wouldn't recommend a 3.5 sec cast low damage lifetap as a top tier champ level to an infil with no MoC or quickcast. I'd rather have the accolyte resists as Occalin suggests. Would be tempting to go for elementalist GTAE just so that my infil has something to do at a keep fight, but nah

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Flimgoblin · Oct 4, 2005

everyone in alb should get the pbaoe! rah!

shame it's a 3s fixed cast low delve pbaoe

Zebolt · Oct 4, 2005

2 sec cast time on the debuffs is well.... funneh

Garbannoch · Oct 4, 2005

think the best will probably be to spend all 5 points into the tree with the tri-magic/tri-melee resists; 1 min duration insta cast 10% melee resists every 5 mins sounds quite ok

haarewin · Oct 4, 2005

im confused - do you get to pick whichever tree you like?
(not read anything about DR apart from this)

Kalidur · Oct 4, 2005

so can a fighting class sub class into the fighter line ?

if you can does the DA (in the fighter line) stack with the reaver DA

Isunder · Oct 4, 2005

haarewin said:
im confused - do you get to pick whichever tree you like?
(not read anything about DR apart from this)

Of all the base classes in your realm (4 Mid, 5 Hib, 6 Alb) you can pick from any one other than your own classes original base class e.g. Infiltrator can't gain Rogue champion skills.

scorge · Oct 4, 2005

Kalidur said:
so can a fighting class sub class into the fighter line ?

if you can does the DA (in the fighter line) stack with the reaver DA

nope fighter cant choose fighter subclasses

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scorge · Oct 4, 2005

Flimgoblin said:
they don't stack.

all the spells have a fixed casting time (unaffected by dex)

are the subclassing spells interruptable, i think they are but not sure.

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Heta · Oct 4, 2005

they are interuptable

Arakasi01 · Oct 4, 2005

Paladin finally with the ability to heal

Zebolt · Oct 4, 2005

Isunder said:
Of all the base classes in your realm (4 Mid, 5 Hib, 6 Alb) you can pick from any one other than your own classes original base class e.g. Infiltrator can't gain Rogue champion skills.

Does that mean casters can get styles?

scorge · Oct 4, 2005

champion level Quartermaster Items (these are not king's magery items):
CL1
Grey Horse - 3p
Spotted Horse - 3p
Chocolate Horse - 3p
Bay Horse - 3p

CL2
Palomino Horse - 4p
Black Horse - 4p
Silver Horse - 4p
King's Star of Destiny -250g

CL3
Chestnut Warhorse - 6p
Spotted Warhorse - 6p
Bay Warhorse - 6p
Grey Warhorse - 6p
Luminescent Cambriare Stone (CLA Respec) - 25c

CL4
Palomino Warhorse - 8p
Black Warhorse - 8p
Chocolate Warhorse - 8p
Silver Warhorse - 8p

CL5
Undead Horse Voucher - 15p
Unicorn Voucher - 15p
Nightmare Voucher - 15p
Earth Horse Voucher - 15p
Ice Horse Voucher - 15p
Fire Horse Voucher - 15p
Luminescent Cambriare Stone (CLA Respec) - 25c

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scorge · Oct 4, 2005

Zebolt said:
Does that mean casters can get styles?

yes and at CL3 can equip most base weapons swords shields crush thrusters etc so that they can use them

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Zebolt · Oct 4, 2005

I can imagine the whines on a BD with weapons and styles :>

Andrilyn · Oct 4, 2005

Now finally all the RoG Swords with +12 int etc will be useful!

Chimaira · Oct 4, 2005

Zebolt said:
I can imagine the whines on a BD with weapons and styles :>

low ws infil evade infil dragonfangs :m00:

Zebolt · Oct 4, 2005

Chimaira said:
low ws infil evade infil dragonfangs

Like infils will have a chance anyway :>

Elitestoner · Oct 4, 2005

Chimaira said:
low ws infil evade infil dragonfangs

ya considering if u are using crush slash thrust etc, and with horribly low str wont be hitting much

sounds like a great way of tanks to get reactive chains off on you

Fana · Oct 4, 2005

scorge said:
CL2
Palomino Horse - 4p
Black Horse - 4p
Silver Horse - 4p
King's Star of Destiny -250g

Is that a Master Level respec SoD?

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