EU CE Questions.

[peo]

Originally Posted by lerusius

It is a beta event preceding any Open Beta thingie.

Mark said tho that when the NDA releases that they would hopefully still be in Closed Beta. Anyone know how Mythic defines Open beta?

Is the Aussie beta open or closed? - Warhammer Forums

I'd say open beta means looser nda and mainly for load testing of servers and loginsystems. It isn't open in the way that anyone can join by downloading a client.

[Faeldawn]

Originally Posted by lerusius

It is a beta event preceding any Open Beta thingie.

Can't find that information anywhere, can you link your source please?

[lerusius]

VN Boards - The Press Release of August 6th as well as some other announcements

take a look at points 3 and 5

[Faeldawn]

Originally Posted by lerusius

VN Boards - The Press Release of August 6th as well as some other announcements

take a look at points 3 and 5

Thank you

[peo]

Some information, posted on warhammeralliance.

Originally Posted by IainC_Goa

Blizzard's customer service is also based in Ireland for precisely the same reason.

Here's our situation at the moment:

We're working to move things up to the new schedule. We were working to a timetable that got suddenly changed and we'll have to see what it is possible to do in the meantime.

The following things are definite however:

• The EU open beta will start on time.
• The EU account centre will open on time.
• The EU live release and headstart will happen on time.
• CE pre-orders for the EU will get everything they were promised. Mythic have announced extra bonuses and we will see what can be done for EU customers in response to that.

There are a lot of things going on behind the scenes in response to this announcement and we are trying very hard to make sure that EU players don't miss out. As of right now we don't have anything to announce, when we hear back from our various internal teams we'll be letting everyone know what the situation is.

Finally one point. Many people seem to be under the impression that if we only had a working account centre then this wouldn't be a problem. That isn't the case. Adding 55k beta testers is not a trivial task. Our current datacentre is not big enough to handle that or the extra capacity needed for open beta. We are currently in the process of fitting out a brand new, dedicated datacentre which is going to be our open beta and live platform. Putting 9 million euros worth of server equipment in place is not something that just happens without careful planning and scheduling. The plans for that have it installed, tested and ready for open beta, we're seeing if it's possible to move that forwards but it's mostly in the hands of our suppliers. As well as that, there are other logistical hurdles to be overcome, the account centre is a relatively minor part of the process.

[partyanimal]

the only real difference between mythic and goa is that the us ce owners will start playing for a few days in closed beta.
unless there is a serious mix up, i can't see anything bad about that.

and yes, i have pre-ordered the eu ce.

[peo]

Originally Posted by partyanimal

the only real difference between mythic and goa is that the us ce owners will start playing for a few days in closed beta.
unless there is a serious mix up, i can't see anything bad about that.

and yes, i have pre-ordered the eu ce.

No, the only difference is that NOW! the us is ready for 60k people while europe isn't. This means that goa hasn't prepared for launch at all. The datacentre should have been up for a long time and be ready for the completely known open beta which will start very soon.
The thing is that "on time" is nothing more that "soon", "when it's ready", "when ther eis a use for it" it is just a proof of inaction.

[Idris]

I think it's more that GOA planned for a launch mid-Sept, not to suddenly have 55k into closed beta this week. It's been said before that Mythic kind of surprised everyone with that announcement, but Mythic knows when their servers are up and running.

I'll be happy to get what I paid for - headstart, open beta access, and a game that works. (plus art book, mousemat, etc!).

It's hard not to get caught up in comparisons, but you have to remember the core stuff and what we're actually paying for. If Mythic spring other stuff like this, then I'm guessing GOA won't always be able to respond, especially when they thought they had another few weeks to test stuff before taking on the masses.

That being said, both companies will have a lot of eyes watching what they do and how they do it, and maybe Mythic will next time think for at least a few hours on whether they should warn their partners of such info so they can at least devise some kind of PR strategy around it.

I think Iain and Magnus have done a good job at communicating so far, but things are just about to get really hectic for all!

[peo]

Yes, a launch, preceded by a few weeks of open beta.
Not a launch preceded by a few days of headstart and a day of open beta.
That is of course enough to fulfill the letter of promises but hardly the intent of the words "equal or better service"

[partyanimal]

We paid for open beta, head start and some other stuff.
mythic wants to offer their ce customer some beta testing.
i don't know their strategy behind this.
do they want to sell more ce?
do they want to test the server stability and the server size before the nda lift?
etc

if you really want to check timetables, mythic has to announce the date of open beta start.
i don't expect goa to offer closed beta for ce.
but if they fail to be ready for open beta and head start, then we must protest

[peo]

Originally Posted by partyanimal

We paid for open beta, head start and some other stuff.
mythic wants to offer their ce customer some beta testing.
i don't know their strategy behind this.
do they want to sell more ce?
do they want to test the server stability and the server size before the nda lift?
etc

if you really want to check timetables, mythic has to announce the date of open beta start.
i don't expect goa to offer closed beta for ce.
but if they fail to be ready for open beta and head start, then we must protest

Protesting after the fact won't make much difference.

[Dervish]

Why are people so quick to be pointing the finger at GOA? Another way of looking at this is that Mythic in the US are panicking and throwing all sorts of freebies at bonuses at the US public to ensure success whereas GOA are calmly moving along, co-ordinating a considerably bigger beta test pool, in 5 different language regions and to their own schedule.

So many DOOM!!!! merchants. If GOA have failed in anything it is that they have failed to break any promises. They haven't missed any deadlines. They haven't done anything wrong. Everyone was ready to burn play.com to the ground but everyone got their shiny DVD case with the codes and there was a lot of play.com DOOM!!! also.

IF open beta / head start / code section on website or any similar things get f***ed up then I will be rightly screaming for answers and explainations and compensation. But that is a big IF.

It's only people who read these sort of forums who are worrying because of all the DOOMers on here. Most casual types who ordered there CE, got the box from play.com or HMV are happy to wait for the GOA website update and code entry places and announcements of open beta and head start dates when they are ready to be announced.

We all need to be a little more objective as well as excited. We all want this to be a success so use the pent up energy for something postive instead.

[peo]

Of course, the uninformed will always just waddle along.

[IainC]

Originally Posted by peo

Of course, the uninformed will always just waddle along.

Or flame continuously based on their own uninformed opinions.

[bobfish]

Originally Posted by IainC

Or flame continuously based on their own uninformed opinions.

Touche