Exclusive FH Comp!! Win Goa War Beta Keys!!!

[MYstIC G]

The competition is free to enter.

Entry is only open to FreddysHouse subscribers. This decision was taken in order to give something back to those who support FreddysHouse.

Anyone can be a subscriber if they want to, it's not a restricted club. If you don't want to then don't, simple as.

I'm sorry that this this isn't an a back of a coke can, no loyalty necessary competition but frankly you need to stop talking shit.

[Gimpmybride]

im so new im shiny, i have a great line for the picture but don't know how to find the link to post to it any help?

[Gimpmybride]

Ok i cant work out how this all works so here is my caption for the picture.

'When you said you wanted me to give head while holding a huge chopper in my hands i had something a little more personal in mind than you chopping mine off!'

(not rude it's all inuendo hope i didn't offend)

[deathm]

Originally Posted by MYstIC G

The competition is free to enter.
Entry is only open to FreddysHouse subscribers. [...] but frankly you need to stop talking shit.

"competition n.The act of competing, as for profit or a prize;"


You're right I should stop talking shit, we are not using the same words.

[MYstIC G]

Originally Posted by deathm

"competition n.The act of competing, as for profit or a prize;"


You're right I should stop talking shit, we are not using the same words.

Wow, you can quote from answers.com... impressive, except as with the quote of my previous post you only select parts that you twist and manipulate to your side. The full answers.com definition being:

com·pe·ti·tion (kŏm'pĭ-tĭsh'ən) pronunciation
n.

1. The act of competing, as for profit or a prize; rivalry.
2. A test of skill or ability; a contest: a skating competition.
3. Rivalry between two or more businesses striving for the same customer or market.
4. A competitor: The competition has cornered the market.
5. Ecology. The simultaneous demand by two or more organisms for limited environmental resources, such as nutrients, living space, or light.

sts, k?

[mre802]

A Skirmish Between Greenskins and dwarves on a very british day

[deathm]

Originally Posted by MYstIC G

Wow, you can quote from answers.com... impressive, except as with the quote of my previous post you only select parts that you twist and manipulate to your side. The full answers.com definition being:sts, k?

How can you be tested if you cannot be judged?
Or maybe you will judge everyone and give price to those who paid?
So the real winner will not be the one who was judge as it, but the one who will come next and has pay.

If I quoted the only the first sentence it was because you were giving price. So that's the one who fit best.
The second is for a contest with no price at all.

I don't think I'm the one who try to manipulate the fact.

That's a free contest where you have to pay...

[MYstIC G]

Originally Posted by deathm

That's a free contest where you have to pay.

Incorrect (again). Stop muddying the waters, it's pathetic.

[Talivar]

If u dont wanna pay and join then just stop whining pls, no1 is forcing ppl to join its 100% voluntary. There are lots and lots of competitions where you have to be a member or atleast pay to enter, its not like FH breaking some unknown rule. You are just making yourself look very bitter and childish IMO

[Dakkath]

Wow

Should have known some of the hijacking monkies on the forums could turn a great idea into a whine thread...

FH has been a place a lot of us have spent many, many hours over the years. It's a small price for a yearly subs to thank the guys/girls giving up their free time to run the site and even paying to host it...

Personally, I didn't subscribe for the competition (I've been a paid up subscriber for a couple of years) but it is an added bonus I'm happy to get!!!

[GReaper]

The people complaining aren't even regular FreddysHouse users. Freshly registered a few days ago to complain.

If you've really got a problem with it though, you should be contacting GOA and not FH. Chances are it'll be ignored as it's Iain who will probably deal with such a complaint and he's the one saying it's okay!

[deathm]

Yes there are competition where you need to pay, in these competition you are making a pool and this pool is the prize. Here, GOA give you Beta Keys.
Furthemore there were many other contest before done with GOA who were totally free of charge.
They were giving 25 beta keys, and other prices and it was free of charge to enter in, but they are probably stupid morrons.
Why should you be able to change that?
I will always whine if I see something who is not fair.

That's nothing more than a gathering of money, if that was, like you said, to reward your supporters, the contest would be available to member who were supporting you before this contest.

But you are thinking that the new subscriber aren't paying to enter in the contest?

Yes, I'm probably stupid to think like that. You are right, that's free.

[TdC]

Hi deathm,

This particular contest is open to everyone who is a FHsubscriber. I'm assuming you've not been here before you signed up to the forums, so you'll not know, but most people subscribing to the premium FH service are doing it for their own reasons, and have been doing it well before this particular competition came along.

If people want to subscribe to the premium service so they can get a chance to win a key, that is up to them. If people are signing up to the forums and subscribing to the premium service specifically to try to win a key, then that is up to them. We, ofc, would hope that they would stay and become part of our fun community, but that is again up to them.

This particular competition has been approved by both GOA and FH staff, and has nothing to do with selling WAR keys, but everything to do with a creative competition that FH has asked GOA to help them arrange. You seem to be of mind that you can buy a key from FH, but that is not the case. We do *not* have WAR beta keys for sale, and we do not condone actions that break FH and/or GOA rules, terms and conditions.

If you refuse to subscribe to the FH premium service, then that is fine with us, but sadly this competition will be closed to you. As you mention earlier, there may be another shower of beta keys on another site or in another community, and you'll be better off going there or some other place where there is no pay as you go policy.

Just to reiterate points mentioned by my fellow mods above: FH does not make money. FH is staffed by a number of volunteers who donate large amounts of time and resources to provide a fun place for a goodly amount of people to have fun with each other. People who become FHsubscribers tend to do so because they have been around for ages and want to give something back. This particular competition is us giving back to them.

Cheers,

[Slayn]

I think this is a really interesting issue. Perhaps the discussion should be moved to a separate thread but as I havn't seen one I'll post here.

On the legal front, I did some googling and found this site:

‘What does… stand for?’ Comping terminology

It differentiates prize draws, which don't involve skill and *can't* have an entry fee (this is why prizes in crisp packets etc. have 'no purchase necessary clauses) from competitions. Competitions involve an element of skill and legally speaking it is fine to include some fee or other purchase to enter them. The site also suggests that this is quite common practice.

It is also very understandable the point by mods that they want to reward the community etc. Beta keys are sought after, and a competition like this will be linked on other sites all over the web. That means the second FH put this competition up the site will have a big influx of people who have never heard of FH but want to get a beta key. It is in a sense quite nice that the mods care enough to attempt to restrict the competition to genuine FH users.

The most interesting choice is perhaps the following: do they allow people to subscribe purely in order to enter the competition, or, alternatively, do they say you can only enter if you were *already* subscribed when the competition started. The latter option would dispel any claim that the competition was being treated as a money-maker, but many would be upset because despite having been involved in the FH community for ages, and in their way contributing a lot to its identity, they aren't allowed to enter the competition. This last thing is not at all desirable in my eyes.

So in summary, I reckon people should think about all the above issues when making a judgement about the decision. It is not clearcut and cannot be reduced to some simple motivation on the part of the site.

[vaggos]

The problem is that in the announcements around the websites you don't state its a competition for FH subscribers so what you are doing is illegal;aren't you in europe? I have checked this with my lawyer and states that I am tricked to register and find out later that you have to pay for it. I don't have that much knowledge to write more details like my lawyer does.