Exclusive FH Comp!! Win Goa War Beta Keys!!!

[crispy]

Originally Posted by Tesla Monkor

Greenskin boobs ought to get a betakey.

(Considering there are no greenskin females, that'll be a bit hard to take a picture of..

Im sure you can find some on the internet... Check rule 34

[crispy]

Hmm. Whats allowed to do with the category c entry? Having some fun with it in photoshop, adding some stuff etc?

[The_Daddy]

Nice comp, will have to think of some inspiring ideas!

[deathm]

I'm curious to know the position of Goa and Mythic with your policy.
They have specified dozen of times before that the beta key Musn't be sold.
And this challenge.... You are plugged on the Goa website and you are using it to gathering money.

I don't think it's fair, and I am not sure that GOA would agree with this policy.

[Tilda]

Originally Posted by deathm

I'm curious to know the position of Goa and Mythic with your policy.
They have specified dozen of times before that the beta key Musn't be sold.
And this challenge.... You are plugged on the Goa website and you are using it to gathering money.

I don't think it's fair, and I am not sure that GOA would agree with this policy.

Originally Posted by Tilda

Its not being sold.
Freddyshouse has a deal with GOA to provide keys to whoever wins the competition.
Because FH is a loss-making venture, we chose to restrict the competition to paying subscribers to help make some of that back, and also reward the members who have supported us in the past by subscribing.

And to quote Requiel/Iain the GOA Community Manager on waralliance;

Originally Posted by IainC_Goa

It's a legitimate competition. We've partnered with our friends at Freddyshouse to give away beta keys and other goodies to European WAR fans.
Freddyshouse has put together a really great competition that we feel is worthy of the fantastic prizes on offer. There will be other competitions later in association with other English language fansites but we gave Freddyshouse the first shot because they've been great partners for us in the past and we wanted to give them something back.

[deathm]

I can't see nowhere they are saying they are authorizing the selling of the key.
Or at least they are agree with the fact you have to pay to enter in.

[royo]

You are NOT paying any money for the key itself, you are paying money to gain access to a premium membership on freddyshouse, the fact that they have a competition for their premium members is OK with Goa, and it's a nice way to give back something to the people that support your site.

[deathm]

Ok, that's a really good attempt to manipulate the fact.

Look at the real fact:

You are seeing an announcment for a contest on the news of Goa's website.
You are going to this contest.
But you need to pay to enter in this contest to win a beta key.
Oups sorry, you are not paying for the key or the contest, but for the forum.
But if you haven't paid for the forum you can't enter this contest.

That's exactly the same way, but you are trying to hide the fact.

It could be a great chance to get a big amount of money, because these contest got a really good audience.

I would be glad to see a word from GOA, hearing them saying that I have to shut my mouth.
Even if I would not agree with it, because it's so different to there current policy, I would have to shut up.

I agreed that donation is a good way to support this site or any other one.
But now, you are using the gift from Goa to gather money, that's a totally different thing.

This contest make your forum more visible and you are using it to get some money. "You can't have your cake and eat it".

That should be the choice of users to choose to pay or not for your website if they like it, that's not what is going on here.


You are probably understanding what I mean, but that's a so beautiful opportunity to gather money, why not exploiting it?

[royo]

1.50 quid per month, 10 quid if you buy for a whole year. You haven't looked how many signed up, it's not a lot... They're not exactly getting rich off this but I doubt anyone will try to convince you further. Changing the contest rules now would be unfair to the subscribers so it will stay the way it is now, I believe.
There are other ways to get your hands on a key, just keep checking out other community websites, they're bound to start up contests and such, and there are 4000 keys which have not been sent out to Europe subscribers yet.

[deathm]

That was not for getting a beta key that I was arguing.
That was just to point out an attitude I dislike.
I would probably enter in this contest for fun If I can handle my problem with my comp.
This contest is fun, but these rules are a shame.

[IainC]

We were happy for Freddys to make this a subscriber only contest. They aren't in any way 'selling beta keys'. They've done a lot to support us and the English DAoC community in the past and they have some great plans to continue that partnership in the future with WAR. Unfortunately it costs the admins of this site a great deal of money to do so which is why we agreed that they could use this competition to try and help with that. This competition is to reward those who have already helped to support Freddyshouse and to encourage others to follow their lead. If you don't want to subscribe to Freddyshouse then there will be other competitions later - either here or on other fansites - that won't require you to subscribe.

[deathm]

ok, now I have to shut up.

Congratulation to Ogrelin Blodig for his "wonderful piece of art", he definitivly deserve to win his key (that he didn't bought )
That was a good fight.

Cheers.

[Jupitus]

Originally Posted by IainC

We were happy for Freddys to make this a subscriber only contest. They aren't in any way 'selling beta keys'. They've done a lot to support us and the English DAoC community in the past and they have some great plans to continue that partnership in the future with WAR. Unfortunately it costs the admins of this site a great deal of money to do so which is why we agreed that they could use this competition to try and help with that. This competition is to reward those who have already helped to support Freddyshouse and to encourage others to follow their lead. If you don't want to subscribe to Freddyshouse then there will be other competitions later - either here or on other fansites - that won't require you to subscribe.

Thanks for posting IainC.

Folks: I can assure you that here at FH we may have a relaxed attitude to many things but we hold very dear the honest values of gaming which include a harsh policy against people posting any hacks or warez information and partnering with GOA in the past to uphold their ingame CoC with our own rules. There is no way that we would have taken any underhand steps to try to cheat people into paying for site membership, and the decision to make the competition subscriber only was done in advance, and announced in advance, with the full knowledge and support of GOA. I will be removing posts from the other threads about this matter.

Those who have entered without realising they need to subscribe are free to subscribe before the competition closes or make their entry a 'just for fun' one. Personally I have really enjoyed seeing the entries we have coming in

finally, deathm... you may not wish to subscribe to FreddysHouse for this competition, but stick around and be part of the discussions please. Being a 'partner' with GOA means we also have other information for all of our users, such as Damini's report from the press event.

Ta muchly,

[Talivar]

Well i think its a great idea At the end of the day IMO its just the way things work. FH costs alot to run but they dont force us to sub here just to use the place, then along comes a way to help ease the costs for running the site AND have a nice little gift or 2 for subscribers. Its just the same as a computer magazine with a dvd on the front, you can go into the shop and read the magazine but if u want the dvd u have to buy the magazine Fully optional and fair

[deathm]

I'm sorry for this episode.
I'm managing a website too. That's not a gamer website that's a Computer Graphics website, it take us a lot of time, we have done lot of works, translating the documentation who didn't exist for our community.
It helps to sell the software we are supporting, but anything we have done was needed to be paid by our users.
That's why it make me a little angry.
I never seen any art contest before who need to get a fee.
There is a big website who make big challenge, with price for more than 10 thousands of dollars, they got membership, but their challenge are open for every users. The membership is done to support them, not to enter in any contest.


And what disturbed me too with this contest, was the entry who is eligible in the art contest.
That's a pure joke, who didn't take more than 1min to the user. He didn't make any effort to enter in, but because he paid, he can win.

That's my thought about this, I feel it unfair. That's probably because I'm not used of this kind of policy.