Games Generation 8 consoles

Not really a war worth fighting though was it?

And G, an 80" telly? Where do you live? Blenheim Palace?

Err why was this moved?

In retrospect, it was a bag of LOL.

A palace surrounded by drink driving Poles.

Odd. I thought the front room was for general chat, gaming related or not. While the thread is titled generation 8 consoles it was a general discussion regarding media formats too.

Have the mods not got anything better to do than dick about with thread locations? It makes as much sense as moving the photography posts to the tech section... Please can you move any post relating to a game to the relevant sections too. Console or PC, wouldn't want it to get confusing.

Obviously not, what a farce.

I feel I have to weigh in on this one too. I don't own a console (well, a Wii, but that doesn't count). I don't bother coming into the console forum threads either.

I do, however, have a passing interest in the up and coming consoles and general was the place for that discussion.

If there was a load of threads about specific console games in the front room then yep, there'd be some candidates for moves. But even if it was a single thread about a specific big console game I wouldn't move it...


Ch3t was right, but tbh I wouldn't have started a thread to complain about it. I'd have gone direct to the mods with my argument first. But he was still right.

Blu Ray vs HD, then Sony is the clear winner as whatever money Sony may have lost is equalled by what MS lost backing and developing HD DVD. Yes the format might not be in every home yet but geese what neither is DVD my Nan still rocks a VHS in her living room. And yes i bet streaming will hurt the future sales of Blu Rays but no one saw that coming. There really does seem to be some pointless Sony bashing whenever these threads pop up.

Incorrect, MS backed HD-DVD for little over 2 years and made a significant amount of money off the external drive itself because it was manufactured and sold to them at just above cost price as a way of rapidly gaining some traction in the market. MS was also in profit with 360 very quickly, just over 2 years and mainly because XBL started to grow at a rapid rate, any losses they incurred backing the HD-DVD format were quickly recovered through sales and subscriptions. Microsoft's annual financials reflect this and they have posted consistent growth plus profit for the last 5 years in a row.

Soze, please realise mate, this is not Sony bashing so much as stating that they made some big mistakes and it has had a massive impact on thier business. Revenue has been stagnant, regular annual losses and a range of products all underperforming on Sony's own expectations. Where is the bashing in that? It is just stating the truth that has already been widely reported.

Because it is bashing without giving it a chance. If Blu Ray does not turn a profit this year it still has years left on its shelf life. The same with the PS3 it might be a loss now but as there are still games coming out on the PS2 so i don't think the PS3 needs to turn a profit before the end of the year or the company is a write off. Everything posted about Sony seems so over negative like bashing Windows or Apple. The huge Market Share Sony have lost that came from someone else Sony took it and now Nintendo and MS have taken a huge chunk until we see what the future holds there is no point in being negative IMO. Rather than saying Sony fucked up I just think in this generation they came up against two great console.

Pointing out obvious faults with a company isn't bashing. It's telling the truth.

Or should we not point out stupid mistakes?

So by comparison, Vista was a total fuckup, I don't see how 720 is going to work.

derpa derpa. i'm a sherpa.

Zune too, man, 720 is doomed after that product.

The only reason we're discussing this shit is a result of pointless bashing.

Ok, Blu-Ray has already had 5-6 years and has yet to surpass DVD sales, infact digital streaming is actually eating away at BD sales, Netflix and thier ilk are growing at a staggering rate with their 1080p versions are considered 'good enough' by most people. So can we agree that BD is being squeezed? Now you think we need to give them more time to grow even though HD-DVD died off 4 years ago, fair enough but will the market give them time? We are already seeing a big transition to digital content delivery which is being taken up by the tech saavy en masse. The bottom end of market are still buying DVD and are perfectly happy with it, where does that leave BD in the long term? With half the market share it was expected to have, the dominant HD format but not the dominant format. That is the problem for Sony, they hedged all thier bets on BD and the financials are quite clear, it is not delivering the revenue.

No Sony bashing, just honest opinions. If you want me to bash Apple I can do that all day!

Microsoft brings in more revenue in 3 months than Sony does in 12 months, they consistently turn a profit every quarter. They can afford mistakes.

Sony are consistently turning in losses, going to the banks for money, culling entire divisions and trying to drastically reduce thier pension burden by forced redundancies. They cannot afford many more mistakes.

ECA your a blatant Sony fanboi, you do nothing but bash the Xbox anytime it's mentioned and before you use that popular internet word irony, yes i'm a fanboi.

You're just a twat about it though.

If there's one thing i can say i absolutely hate about my PS3 is everytime you buy a new game you can't just put it in and play.

You have to go through an OBSCENE install time and downloading patch time, it's a fucking console ffs not a PC where you have to go through a 20min install time.

Nope, I'm pretty objective it just seems you and others want to shit on "the other side" from your own hardware purchases.
I swap brands of everything regularly without emotional attachment, I don't really care.

I bought a PS3 a little while back, but I own consoles from nintendo, sega, microsoft ( including a 360 ), whatever.
I buy both amd and nvidea graphics cards depending on price/performance when I buy.

The sum tldr of my posts in this thread is basically denying vita/ps3 are flops based on unit sales, and thinking people are being a bit fucking retarded.

Very few people have said it was/is a flop, certainly not me but some want to read it that way sadly when it just isn't the case.

PS3 ain't a flop, apart from the blu ray the console just seems very complicated to make games for it seems every game that is multiformat the PS3 usually gets a pretty poor port.

Seriously though, Bluray is an over engineered, locked down joke, if I'd wanted to let the hardware manufacturer have a guy in my room operating the remote for me , I'd have bought an Apple.
Streaming will kill it, it so obvious that Sony must have written it off allready.

I'd like to wade in on the Blu ray v HD-DVD thingy if i may ( this isn't PS3/ sony bashing cos i havn't got a PS3 )
I've got a stand alone br player and still have the hd-dvd thingy for the 360, the one thing i have noticed above anything else is that hd-dvd pretty much starts up straight away, where as with br i have to wait for it to load.
I don't know if that's just my br player or not but it is the only real significant difference i can find (other than the amount of storage)

Stand alone BD players are slow compared to games consoles; everyone complains about it, except PS3 owners.

im prolly dumb enough to to buy both of what ever shit sony and ms spit out for the "next gen" consoles. just hope to each consoles has decent number of "exclusives" to make it worth while, aside from perhaps gow,forza and prolly halo on 360 and gt5, gow, mgs,lpb and uncharterd on ps3 theres really been very little to seprate both consoles. aside from ps3 getting the shitter of the multi format titles if you wana be picky.

tho sony seems to have shot them shelves in the foot already with team ico and that game company who seems liek they are heading towards realeasing games on pc

if the 360 is dead then you can use the hdd or transfer it to the hdd on a new one. just be be sure to properly wipe the hdd before selling it on or better still use it in alappy/htpc/leechbox or somat

meh we have to pay for the cable now? feh even sony aint that lame

Wii U could be in for a rough ride?

I though the Wii U was a April Fools Joke at first it seems like a terrible concept. With a Nintendo Badge though i bet it still sells OK.

Sony announce a $6 billion dollar loss! 10,000 job losses.