Important - Radar Accusations

[Cliccz0r^]

what about gratz threads then ? from post 2 that is nothing but post farming also ?

[Flimgoblin]

Originally Posted by Cliccz0r^

what about gratz threads then ? from post 2 that is nothing but post farming also ?

They're allowed. I'm not a fan of them but they're allowed. Incidentally anything other than saying grats in a grats thread probably counts as postfarming/spam and could get your postcount reset or whatever.

[Ogen]

Originally Posted by Flimgoblin

1. encourages more people to use radar because "everyone is using it"

2. smears the name of innocent people when people get it wrong - sure there's radar users out there and you might be right when you post it.

If you're right - it does nothing to stop them radaring.

That makes me wonder tbh .. you got the name, you can see the movie and base your choise from it, and then you could do something about it?
I mean, isnt that a part of your job?

[Flimgoblin]

Originally Posted by Ogen

That makes me wonder tbh .. you got the name, you can see the movie and base your choise from it, and then you could do something about it?
I mean, isnt that a part of your job?

erm I'm a mod on FH - I've nowt to do with GOA.
All I could do is stop suspected radar users from posting - which would be about as relevant as a newspaper shop refusing to sell ice cream to suspected murderers.

[UKM_Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Cliccz0r^

realy dont see the point in why ppl cant post about ppl that they think uses radar - to me it just seems like a way for u to bust u ban counter. btw ? any way we can see it ?

Don't Ever give this Guy Cliccz0r any details of your name e-mail, com's ip address.

HE IS A HACKER. SEEN HIM doing it loads of times.

[UKM_Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by UKM_Thorgrim

Don't Ever give this Guy Cliccz0r any details of your name e-mail, com's ip address.

HE IS A HACKER. SEEN HIM doing it loads of times.

Its as easy as that to Accuse.. NOW PROVE. it the rest of the community will shun you ..

..

Sorry m8 just wanted to prove a point..

This is not the place Let GOA or Mythic deal with it that way Freddy don't get into shit ... with people accusing people of shit they aint doing..

[Gordonax]

Originally Posted by angrysquirrel

do you work for freddys house or was that a generalisation of libel law ignoring subsequent statutory instruments, precedents and alternate court rulings ?

im passionate about this name and shame thing tbh, so im curious!

I don't work for FH, but I'm trained in libel law (I'm a journalist irl, and used to edit a magazine, so libel was kind of my business! ). The most recent case involving forums was when George Robertson (NATO secretary general) won a pay out from a Scottish news paper over comments made by someone posting on their message board (details at http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...301108,00.html). There's plenty of clear precedent on this.

[angrysquirrel]

this has gone totally off topic.

flim has elaborated on his feelings, everyone else has made theirs despite what we agree and disagree with.

on a more positive note NF will be the first small step towards making this game more fun and fair !

(as a by the by, why not just install radar into the game except for stealthers like planetside..even playing field and what not)

clicc does hack btw.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by angrysquirrel

this has gone totally off topic.

flim has elaborated on his feelings, everyone else has made theirs despite what we agree and disagree with.

on a more positive note NF will be the first small step towards making this game more fun and fair !

(as a by the by, why not just install radar into the game except for stealthers like planetside..even playing field and what not)

clicc does hack btw.

Because you googled a load of law jargon but to your dismay, Gordons got it in all his head?

Classic

[angrysquirrel]

Originally Posted by Marc

Because you googled a load of law jargon but to your dismay, Gordons got it in all his head?

Classic

no i deal a lot with lawyers at work and if there is one thing that any lawyer will tell you, one lawyers opinion is his own, rarely right and always proven wrong in court

[Gordonax]

Originally Posted by Marc

Because you googled a load of law jargon but to your dismay, Gordons got it in all his head?

Classic

I only got threatened with a libel case once, and although I got away with it (I was in the wrong but thankfully they really didn't know what they were talking about) it tends to stick in your head

[Herjulf]

Kinda like when i run and wipe stealthzergs with my gank posse.
SH SB driving and fills grp with stealther gankhorny comrades.
Each time i get whines of ppl that have "friends" in midgard with PM´s that they are gonna rightnow me for using radar.
All i can do is tell em to do that because i feel quite safe.

Then posting it here only creates rumours, on loose grounds at best.

if you suspect someone of radar make a fraps movie or smt if it clearly shows what you suspect. And give goa a link to it (rightnow).

I personally would not say no to see movies where people reveal radar users though ^^.
i remember this one insta classic one with a minstrel fishing a hib grp was quite entertaining.
Might be cool if they were posted in a movie thread somewhere.

But pointing fingers at people infront of everyone on loose grounds is teh sux.

What if the people u point out try hard in being a good rvr grp/people and all they get in return is slander.

kinda like me putting up a poster on your local supermarket with a picture of you with name etc accusing you of being a pedophile, because you are good with kids.

[Divinia]

Yes I really think The owner of these forums can get busted for trashtalkin someone when there's been posted shit about a ingame character..

[Nuked]

as if anyones actual opinions are taken into account on FH very rarely if at all do i see people say .. wow maybe he has a point, i'll change my view!

some threads may just say give a yes or a no, but you'll still get people who actually give an honest opinion in that thread. Making a thread that says "<insert name> uses radar." is 1 thing, people who come here with a good case to name and shame (fraps etc) should have a chance. a Name and shame on FH is worth far more then a 3day ban from rightnow. It's no worse then threads naming a shaming people who take artifacts from under someone elses nose, Maybe not in GoA's eyes but i'd probably say, stealing artifacts in the community is disaproved of more then radar at the moment.

innocent till proven guilty i say, and nothing is stopping the person(s) in question defending themselves

(excuse the spelling, i need to sleep)
~_~

[Flimgoblin]

what exactly do you think that naming and shaming someone on FH for suspected radar would achieve?

artifact encounters are different - generally the proof is in the post, the accused talks back and people say "bah you didn't have any right to the artifact in the first place"

radar accusations are "XXX uses radar! narf!" with no comeback from the person accused (all they can say is "erm no, I don't, wtf you talking about" which really won't do anything to save face) - it's entirely hearsay.

Oh and you can probably stage a video to accuse someone of radar - don't imagine anyone has yet, but keep them off here as well (though I've seen one video which was "incontrovertible proof" of someone running up a hill... so convincing)

All that accusing people of radar on here does is slander innocent people since even if they are guilty posting here won't change anything.