Medieval II Total War...

[Mabs]

Moors are the new english tbh

who needs primative long bows. ill take you all on with Camel Gunners

long rage.
cause fear.
bonus vs armour.

oh and camels, so cavalry, even if it catches them, has massive disadvantages

they also out-range crossbow men, so you can slaughter them with minimal losses

<- wheres the moorish flag

[Coldbeard]

Anyone playing Lands to Conquer mod?

[Mabs]

Originally Posted by Coldbeard

Anyone playing Lands to Conquer mod?

on and off, why ?

[megadave]

what is it like?

half way through a campaign using ultimate AI mod. is great fun doing such an epic style campaign although still too easy imo, could easily rampage across the whole map anytime i want.

[Mabs]

most of the mods are as hard as you want them to be
some people use house rules to make it more interesting - only respond, never start wars, etc, puts a whole new spin on it

i THINK its "lands to conquer" mod, that is meant to be very hard, due to insane upkeep and building costs ,u can fight , or build, but never both, its a very long drawn out campaign style.

[Mabs]

Originally Posted by Mabs

most of the mods are as hard as you want them to be
some people use house rules to make it more interesting - only respond, never start wars, etc, puts a whole new spin on it

i THINK its "lands to conquer" mod, that is meant to be very hard, due to insane upkeep and building costs ,u can fight , or build, but never both, its a very long drawn out campaign style.

im talking out of my arse again, i meant "The long Road " mod

TWC clickage

[Coldbeard]

Originally Posted by Mabs

on and off, why ?

I used to play Lands to Conquer 2.1 and quite enjoyed it. Computer's AI seemed much better and computer actually built lots of armies that could become a challenge (not that he did anything smart with his armies anyhow) but it was 10000x better than normal MTW II, I also managed to raise huge armies myself without any economical trouble. The thing is, I just upgraded to Lands of Conquer 2.3 with the new official patch as well, and it's changed a whole lot. Computer is totally rabid and aggressive which I normally like apart from the fact that economy seems royally fucked, hard to even afford one full army with 5 cities gaining income. Gameplay just seemed gimped :<

Might try out vanilla MTWII with this new patch as well(looks like they've changed quite alot).

[Shagrat]

It's not too shabby vanilla with the new patch tbh. your neighbours dont automatically just decide to kick the shit out of you anymore (I've been on good relations with Denmark for ages, with both of us hammering away at the HRE).

And the bizarre armies dont seem to be built by everyone anymore (apart from the Milanese, who send out hordes of Genoese Crossbowmen like they are stormtroopers)

Reinstalled it when patch came out and quite enjoying my first game. Playing as England and had wiped out Scotland and France and have been in a protracted 5 way war, fighting alongside the Portuguese against Spain, and alongside the Danes against the Germans and the Milanese. All of us having to put up with endless moaning from the pope.

I also had a little empire in the Middle East at one point, covering 6 regions, but that was until the Mongols arrived and after some massive battles im now down to just 2.


good fun

[Mabs]

Originally Posted by Shagrat

And the bizarre armies dont seem to be built by everyone anymore (apart from the Milanese, who send out hordes of Genoese Crossbowmen like they are stormtroopers)

bah, i really liked those siege weaps only armies

one of the mods i was playing put in kingdom of jerusalem as a new faction, which is really nice, start, obv, in jerusalem, with all western tech, and get mongols and timurids in your face aswell

[Delrith]

I bought this the other day...i've played it quite alot as England, took over Spain, Milan and Scotland. The only problem is the mongols are starting to attack the few Danish camps I took, and it seems like there is no stopping them? :x what ever I use, on which ever amount, I always seem to get bulldozed.
Any advice on how to take them out?

[PLightstar]

I managed to convince the Russians and Pol's to fight the mongols while I sent my forces to norway and germany I managed to beat them with numbers, there calvary is there strong and weak point, you got to have thousands of spearman and heavy infantry like dismounted knights and billman, also it always helps if you have good ol'gunpowder at your side.

[Delrith]

I managed to gather 6 generals all with full army of the best troops and managed run them mongols into the ground, now this other new lot are after my ass
I take it they are alot harder than the mongols?

[Mabs]

mongols are easy with:

spears, guns, archers with stakes

timurids arent easy, tbh

elephants, cannons etc.. they are designed to stop you being all powerful towards the end

if you want to ...exploit the AI... with the mongols

sit in city
put stakes in a U shape inside gate
let them ram it
they charge in
they die

[Coldbeard]

Tried the new patch, it was just as boring and predictable as always. Totally randomly my ally decides to break the marriage-alliance to block one of my ports, k then! Same game development every time too.

So went back to Lands to Conquer and it's also quite fucked up, imba spearmen that the computer likes to make mass hordes of combined with pavise crossbowmen is frustrating to fight, the spearmen have more armor and attack than my heavy infantery (Norman Knights) and my economy sucks despite doing everything to fix it. I tried playing as Sicily, and I think almost every faction in game is in war with me, it's hopeless :<

[Mabs]

try the long road before you give up completely