[QUESTION] binge britain

[tris-]

perhaps im becomnig too sensible or my 'dedication' to staying healthy is swaying m view. ill be as unbiased as i can though.

i used to be a big drinker and introduced to it when i was 14 years old. 14-16 i drank on a few ocassions a month but it was always in a safe environment and generally involved porn films and the playstation.
obviously as i got to 17 i looked old enough to hit the pubs so i did pretty much every week for the following 3 years. i remember times when i could drink a bottle of vodka and still get out on the town.
id say the past year or so my body really cant take it anymore so ive drawn a line and stick to 2 units a day. now im usually out sober and driving and i enjoy it more because i dont wake up feeling like someone shit in my mouth and ran my head over with a tractor.
so you could say with regards to drinking ive been there and done it. with binges ranging from 2 weeks to a full month day in day out.

now i can look in from the outside i wonder if its something we need to take more seriously. at university youre practically encouraged to drink for example. i also see more often how violent people get. for example tonight i was sat on a sofa with a mate. a bloke comes over saying "move it lads, im sitting here". were not really the sort to move just because someone tells us to so we remained which caused him to get more physical.
20 minutes later a fight broke right next to us, so my mate tripped them over to give us some room to move out.
its hard to say if the health effects should be a factor. people know the risks and they choose to drink anyway. someone getting liver failure doesnt matter a shit to me, its not affecting me.

youve got to wonder though - if youre willing to pay £4 for a shot of vodka and postmix coke, do you have a drink problem. you can buy a litre bottle for a tenner.

whats everyone else think about this binge culture?

[fettoken]

Originally Posted by tris-

perhaps im becomnig too sensible or my 'dedication' to staying healthy is swaying m view. ill be as unbiased as i can though.

i used to be a big drinker and introduced to it when i was 14 years old. 14-16 i drank on a few ocassions a month but it was always in a safe environment and generally involved porn films and the playstation.
obviously as i got to 17 i looked old enough to hit the pubs so i did pretty much every week for the following 3 years. i remember times when i could drink a bottle of vodka and still get out on the town.
id say the past year or so my body really cant take it anymore so ive drawn a line and stick to 2 units a day. now im usually out sober and driving and i enjoy it more because i dont wake up feeling like someone shit in my mouth and ran my head over with a tractor.
so you could say with regards to drinking ive been there and done it. with binges ranging from 2 weeks to a full month day in day out.

now i can look in from the outside i wonder if its something we need to take more seriously. at university youre practically encouraged to drink for example. i also see more often how violent people get. for example tonight i was sat on a sofa with a mate. a bloke comes over saying "move it lads, im sitting here". were not really the sort to move just because someone tells us to so we remained which caused him to get more physical.
20 minutes later a fight broke right next to us, so my mate tripped them over to give us some room to move out.
its hard to say if the health effects should be a factor. people know the risks and they choose to drink anyway. someone getting liver failure doesnt matter a shit to me, its not affecting me.

youve got to wonder though - if youre willing to pay £4 for a shot of vodka and postmix coke, do you have a drink problem. you can buy a litre bottle for a tenner.

whats everyone else think about this binge culture?

Can say i have the same experiences and i can relate you everything. Going to bed with someone after a night (not sex nessecarily) out while sober and also feeling great beats being drunk and all that comes with it.

Damn it, i have to invent something that removes the after (not side effects) effects from getting drunk.

[Raven]

Again its down to piss poor parenting. Kids aren't taught to respect alcohol, they don't know or care that it is a poison and if you abuse it, it will kill you. I quite like the governments new ad campaign with the people pissing on their clothes, messing their hair up etc before a night out. Drinks offers in pubs and clubs have a lot to answer for too, something is wrong when it costs more for a pint of milk than it does for an alcoholic drink.

Don't get me wrong I like the odd night on the beer now and again but I know when to stop and switch to soft drinks, sometimes I will only have a couple of pints on a night out before i switch to coke or J20 or whatever.

[old.Tohtori]

Just 2 units a day? And you call that "done with it"?

I drink once a week tops. And after last night, doubt i'll drink in a while. Head is smashing.

Violence is a twat factor, not drink factor.

Originally Posted by fettoken

Damn it, i have to invent something that removes the after (not side effects) effects from getting drunk.

Been in the works for ages, doesn't really work, and is't safe.

Those effects are there for a reason, natural "hey stupid!" body reaction so you don't do it again soon.

[tris-]

Originally Posted by old.Tohtori

Just 2 units a day? And you call that "done with it"?

whats your point?
a man can safely drink 3-4 units a day i believe, according to the government and their health comittees or what ever they are.

drinking 2 units a day is safer than drinking 40 units in a night 4 times a month.

edit: a man can safely drink 3 units a day 'Unless you're teetotal, you probably drink more than you think. The medically recommended units of alcohol per week is 14 for women and 21 for men. How do you compare? Take a minute to try this test - it'll tell you how many units of alcohol you've consumed.' http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informa...ol/alctest.asp

raven: ive found lime and soda is a pretty decent drink that you can probably stick to all night. and its not much more than a glass of coke.

[old.Tohtori]

My point is that you're probably addicted to booze.

Stop drinking every day and see.

You can safely stick your cock in a blender during a blackout, doesn't make it a good idea.

[tris-]

i dont drink everyday, where did i say i drink everyday without fail?
i may drink tonight, and the next 3 days i simply dont have time or i forget about it.

i can tell you the last week i drank on 3 out of 7 ocassions. so im an alcoholic then? twice i drank a measure of whisky and once i drank a pint of lager.
i simply said i stick to 2 units a day, which anyone can see i mean that i dont drink anymore than that.

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

id say the past year or so my body really cant take it anymore so ive drawn a line and stick to 2 units a day.

Yeah, i guess i was wrong in assuming that was meant as such

[tris-]

Originally Posted by old.Tohtori

Yeah, i guess i was wrong in assuming that was meant as such

yes. i guess you shouldnt make assumptions when you dont know the actual fact of the matter.
at one point i dont doubt i had problems with alcohol but i hardly think 3-4 drinks of a measure of whisky a week clasifys someone as being alcohol dependant.
also, isnt a bit rich calling someone an alcoholic when you your self habe just said you have a headache from drinking?

[Huntingtons]

it doesnt matter how much you drink, you feel the need for alcohol, you're an alcoholic in my book.

if you once a month feel like getting hammered, because you need to, you're an alcoholic - if your girlfriend dumped you and you feel the need to get hammered, you're not (you could be, but not per definition!)

[tris-]

Originally Posted by Huntingtons

it doesnt matter how much you drink, you feel the need for alcohol, you're an alcoholic in my book.

i agree, and this is why its a sad state of affairs. people feel the need once-twice a week to get totally fucked on alcohol. when i look back i think i drank because of pressure and then it became a habbit, but it was acceptable for some reason. generally all you hear young people saying is "last week i was smashed" or "yeh i was totally pissed, i couldnt move for 3 days. it was great"

still some of my friends get drunk every week without fail but i think my cutting right back to safe limits has got them thinking.

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

yes. i guess you shouldnt make assumptions when you dont know the actual fact of the matter.
at one point i dont doubt i had problems with alcohol but i hardly think 3-4 drinks of a measure of whisky a week clasifys someone as being alcohol dependant.
also, isnt a bit rich calling someone an alcoholic when you your self habe just said you have a headache from drinking?

What the hell? What you said is a perfect validation for my assumption.

You said "i've cut to 2 units a day", that means, 2 f*cking units a day.

If you wanted to say "i sometimes drink 2 units", then say so and not "2 units a day"

If you drink dail, you're an alcoholic. I've got a headache 'cause i was out drinking, doesn't make me alcoholic.

Not to mention, you only started to say "i don't drink daily", when i called you on being an alcoholic. How convinient.

[tris-]

since you like to make assumptions then i will make it more clearly

IF i drink, i DONT drink MORE THAN 2 units a day.

but since were all experts, im going to say youre an alcoholic because you drank to get drunk.

if we want to go on facts published by experts though, an alcoholic is defined as

"a primary, chronic disease characterized by impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking." JAMA -- Abstract: The definition of alcoholism. The Joint Committee of the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence and the American Society of Addiction Medicine to Study the Definition and Criteria for the Diagnosis of Alcoholism, August

so you drank and got a hangover. by that defintion youre an alcoholic because you used it despite the adverse consequences, since youve used it to excess.

i am ofcourse making assumptions that it is a hangover and you didnt fall over or someone punched you. but its ok, were allowed to assume anything we want.

[old.Tohtori]

You said 2 units a day, that's 2 units a day, now you corrected it. Fine.

Admit some fail won't you and stop being such a twat.

Gees, must've hit a nerve there.

By the way, you can get a hangover from one drink.