Bad Driving?

Access Denied · #1 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 10:48 PM

Why on earth do people who have no licence and cannot drive feel the need to criticize other peoples driving? I have a licence, and I don't drive any differently now than I did when I passed my test. My examiner obviously thought I was a good enough driver or they wouldn't have passed me. Since then however, my girlfriend has told me I'm reckless, (She has been driving longer and has her own way so that's ok) and so have two other people who don't actually know the first thing about driving. If you asked either of them what was involved in making a manual car move they wouldn't have a clue. It jusy really pisses me off. I don't scare my dad, I don't scare my mum or anyone else I know who has a licence.

Anybody else get the same thing?

Lamp · #2 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 10:54 PM

Nope

Bugz · #3 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 10:57 PM

When I actually have a chance to use my license I'll tell you

old.Tohtori · #4 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 10:58 PM

I don't drive either, don't have a license, but i do know wreckless driving when i see it.

The thing is, it's not jsut you in the car, you should, as a driver, make everyone in your car feel safe and if your girl is scared, would you rather keep your ways and keep her scared, or drive a bit slower/cautiously?

I'm not syaing you're a road-psycho, but the drivers rarely see how they drive as they "become one" with the car.

Being in control requires this, to be one with the car(corny but true) and when you are the car, or rather the car an extension of you, you don't notice how tight turns or fast straights you take.

TdC · #5 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 11:09 PM

tbh I *shock* agree with Toht here. I'd not like to sit next to myself when driving, though that is more for comfort value than safety imo. I know when I'm going to brake, give it the gas, turn, etc. I can figure that a pax wouldn't be as pleased as myself coming out of a tight turn.

old.Tohtori · #6 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TdC

tbh I *shock* agree with Toht here

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Binky the Bomb · #7 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 11:23 PM

Thing is, the people who DON'T drive will criticize your driving.... but your the first person they call when they need a lift, or moving furniture, or are stuck in a Welsh police station and need someone to come pick them up.

Fuckers.

Let them mouth off at your driving, you can always say "Sorry, I'm busy at the moment, cars unavailable". If I'm such a crap driver, then I shouldn't be on the road now should I. Now whose laughing?

But think of it this way, it would be worse if they where people who not only had a license, but had POINTS on it, and had picked up motoring fines due to shitty driving. That would be really fucking insulting.*

*= My aunt and her daughter live and drive in Ireland, and they both have the nerve to call me a crap driver. I have no points on my license, and have never wrapped a car around a lap-post, or repeatedly blow up a cars engine, or have three of them burst into flames, or park one on a hill and forget to make sure the hand break was on properly, or park on a designated turning circle for wagons (It backed into the car, the car was a then a convertible. It backed up further, it was then a pancake), or next to a traveller site (without turning the alarm on).
I could only wish that I was making this up, but they are the reason my Uncle now can't get insurance.

old.Tohtori · #8 (**permalink**) 10th October 2008, 11:48 PM

There are also those drivers who think they are gods gift to the roads, who are actually really close to roadnatics.

If someone you are driving thinks you're going too fast, or are driving dangerous, then most likely it's not simply a matter of "what the f*ck they know?"

As said, the driver is the last person to know how they are actually driving.

Access Denied · #9 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 12:01 AM

Like I said. My girlfriend says that I'm sometimes reckless. Doubtful but as Old.Tot says the person driving is too close to the action to really know. Mostly she complains that I go too fast, this usually means going at 40 in a 30 zone. This I do, however, I don't do this in a school zone or on residential streets and to be honest I don't really notice until she points it out, 40 is a comfortable speed for me. As for Old's comment I'll paste:

If someone you are driving thinks you're going too fast, or are driving dangerous, then most likely it's not simply a matter of "what the f*ck they know?"

Well this doesn't have any meaning to my post. I accept that my girlfriend has been driving longer and that she has her own way of driving. Plus since I got my licence I'm a bad passenger too =P My point was that people who cannot drive shouldn't criticize people who can since they don't have any experience.

old.Tohtori · #10 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 12:07 AM

Ah but i don't, for example, need to be driving to know that driving 40 on a 30 stretch is a clearcut sign of wreckless driving.

You are, wreckless. You may handle it, you may be well equipped to do so, but you still are. It's not a matter of where.

Thing is, it's critique, and those who can't take it at all, usually are making excuses like you are right now; "They don't drive, they don't know".

I don't need a phd in modern medicine to know that poking a needle in your eyes is a silly move.

You don't need to be trained in something to make an observation.

And honestly, if you drive like that all the time, congratulations on not killing anyone. Drive by the limits or get off the roads.

Access Denied · #11 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 01:06 AM

Ah I see. Well the legal definition of reckless driving may be doing anything other than the speed limit but allow my to show you the dictionary definition of rechlessness:

utterly unconcerned about the consequences of some action; without caution; careless (usually fol. by of): to be reckless of danger.

Going by the legal definition you are putting forth doing 80 on the motorway is reckless driving when for all intents and purposes it makes absolutely no difference at all. I go by the dictionary and my own definition of reckless driving. That being cutting people up, overtaking on blind bends, not looking where you are going, etc. Using those definitions I'm not a reckless driver because I do none of those.

liloe · #12 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 01:48 AM

I don't agree at all. Personally I drive fast when I can, but I keep my distances and don't drive like a madman. I know what I can do and even though I'm not that old, I've done my fair share of kilometers on the road. The only time I was close to an accident, was the day when some idiot didn't see me and nearly changed to the left lane … I was driving like 110 km/h out of 100 allowed, so not really fast. Usually I prefer driving at night cause then I'm more likely to be alone on the road and can go faster than during daytimes. Tbh, I drive much slower during daytimes cause if there's one thing I hate, it's tailgating.

If someone doesn't like my driving style then they can go by foot, end of the story. I'm a nice bloke and if someone asks me, I will drive them around, but then it's at my conditions and up to now, nobody did argue. I take care of my passengers and I will not shake them around, but I'm not gonna go slow for them.

There is one thing I always do and ppl hate it: I curse like mad when I enter a car. ONE time in my life I took a friend of mine home and I tried to behave cause I didn't know her for so long back then. So we're entering her hometown right behind some grandpa driving 30 km/h. I did behave and all of sudden I hear a "C'mon you slowass" from my right. I sweared … never again will I try to behave

Moral of the story? As long as you're not a crazy idiot or endanger the lives of others, drive your style and let others either accept it or walk

old.Tohtori · #13 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Access Denied

Ah I see. Well the legal definition of reckless driving may be doing anything other than the speed limit but allow my to show you the dictionary definition of rechlessness:

utterly unconcerned about the consequences of some action; without caution; careless (usually fol. by of): to be reckless of danger.

Going by the legal definition you are putting forth doing 80 on the motorway is reckless driving when for all intents and purposes it makes absolutely no difference at all. I go by the dictionary and my own definition of reckless driving. That being cutting people up, overtaking on blind bends, not looking where you are going, etc. Using those definitions I'm not a reckless driver because I do none of those.

Yeah i get it, you're not wreckless by a book definition, but you go over the limit all the time 'cause "it's comfortable for you". And you see nothing wrong with that.

That's, dangerous driving.

The problem wiht most drivers is just this; "my road!". And whn you add a 2-3 ton car into the equation...

You may not agree, but when it comes to operating anything that weighs more then 10 people, i tend to side with the law.

Ingafgrinn Macabre · #14 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by old.Tohtori

Yeah i get it, you're not wreckless by a book definition, but you go over the limit all the time 'cause "it's comfortable for you". And you see nothing wrong with that.

That's, dangerous driving.

The problem wiht most drivers is just this; "my road!". And whn you add a 2-3 ton car into the equation...

You may not agree, but when it comes to operating anything that weighs more then 10 people, i tend to side with the law.

There are situations though toht where driving 10km under the limit is still reckless driving. Like on curvy roads. Similarly there are locations where you can easily drive 20 over, and it's still not dangerous in any way.
There's a road here in the area that's by all means of construction a highway, where there's barely any traffic, and there's still a 50km limit. Needless to say, almost noone drives 50 there. 70 minimum.

old.Tohtori · #15 (**permalink**) 11th October 2008, 09:39 AM

Like i said, by all means, people can drive that fast, as in are able, they can control it, they can...but, when/if you do get into an accident, that 10km "tiny" speed increase...well...without it is better.

Just don't see why people are in such a hurry. And they are.

Is being 5 minutes later where you're going really worth the risks?

Driving over the limit, taking "personal shortcuts" in roadrules...not good in my book.