[QUESTION] binge britain

[soze]

I work half an hour drive from where i live and there is really no other way of getting home other than a £50 cab. This means most time i go out i drive so drink nothing. But when i do drink i drink what would be called a unsafe or binge amount of drink. Only a few times have i drunk so i forget stuff do something silly, i seem to be good at catching my limit and stopping.

Going out used to be social now so many of my friends see it as go out and get pissed which i think is retarded. Why you need to get so blind drunk you have a bottle of vodka before leaving the house seems stupid. But that seems most of my friends weekend tradition now get pissed to the point of starting fights then head into town.

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

when your posting in my thread (by my, i mean, i started it) and not adressing anyone in particular, and replying to me, it would give the impression youre refering to me.
i reckon thats a reasonable assumption to make.

How far off the point can you go?

First it was my fault you wrote something you didn't do, then i'm calling you an alcoholic when i didn't, when infact YOU are the one calling me one, then you take personally a comment about drinking daily, when you're not drinking daily.

Straighten your sh*t out.

Facts are: I never called you an alcoholic, you called me one, i was right about the definition i used and the point i was making, and you're being a dick about something that isn't meant towards you since you're not drinking daily.

[Bugz]

Quality posting lads.

Makes for good reading

[tris-]

Originally Posted by old.Tohtori

How far off the point can you go?

First it was my fault you wrote something you didn't do, then i'm calling you an alcoholic when i didn't, when infact YOU are the one calling me one, then you take personally a comment about drinking daily, when you're not drinking daily.

Straighten your sh*t out.

Facts are: I never called you an alcoholic, you called me one, i was right about the definition i used and the point i was making, and you're being a dick about something that isn't meant towards you since you're not drinking daily.

since you didnt adress the post to anyone, and only me and you were discussing it, then its reasonable to assume youre implying it to my situation. correct?
still, even if i was drinking daily out of desire rather than need, it wouldnt make me an alcoholic.

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

since you didnt adress the post to anyone, and only me and you were discussing it, then its reasonable to assume youre implying it to my situation. correct?
still, even if i was drinking daily out of desire rather than need, it wouldnt make me an alcoholic.

That has no relevance.

You can't get pissed off at something said, if you're not the point of the matter.

If i say "you're an addict IF you drink daily and can't stop", doesn't mean i'm calling you an addcit after you say you don't drink daily.

Gees, that's like you getting pissed off personally for me commenting on a horses ass.

[tris-]

i think its pretty reasonable to assume you were directing the comment at me, since only us 2 were discussing it.

its like me just suddenly saying

youre an idiot

and then later saying "well im not saying you are an idiot"

i dont know, maybe its just me.
usually if there is only 2 people discussing something, and 1 of the other people is me, then i take it that the person is directing their discussion at me unless they say they arnt.

this doesnt help matters either

"Not to mention, you only started to say "i don't drink daily", when i called you on being an alcoholic. How convinient. "

you even say they you called me on being an alcoholic. so which is it - you did direct it or me or didnt?

[Huntingtons]

Originally Posted by Aoami

Having 1 drink a day is not addiction. If it is, then it's not a problem. It's when you rely on alcohol that it becomes a problem.

it is. needing and wanting when it comes to abuse of substances is addiction. wether you drink 1 a day or 10 a day, you're still addicted. a problem... Well thats not really yourself that decides that.

trying to justify if by saying you drink orange juice instead of alcohol at dinner. well i would say its one of the typical acts of an addict. (yes i know an alcohol addict when i see one, havnt seen tris tho so i cant know)

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

this doesnt help matters either

"Not to mention, you only started to say "i don't drink daily", when i called you on being an alcoholic. How convinient. "

you even say they you called me on being an alcoholic. so which is it - you did direct it or me or didnt?

Bloody well know what i meant by that.

You're now grasping at straws, just trying your best to make me look bad after you've noticed i was right.

Calling you on being, and calling you, is two completely different things.

Facts are;

- I didn't call you an alcoholic.
- You called me, for having a hangover none the less.
- People who can't live without drink are addicted, thus, alcoholic.

Accept it and shut up.

Oh and about your "same as calling you an idiot" thing, no it's not, as i never called you anything. You simply took something i said, about people who need to drink being addicts, personally. It's your fault you got offended by it, not mine.

And fyi; drinking OJ with lunch instead of alcohol isn't an achievement unless you got an alcohol problem.

[leviathane]

Brilliant. Another thread gone completely in the wrong direction. Gratz.


(That's sarcasm in case you didn't get it ).

[Manisch Depressiv]

Originally Posted by Aoami

Having 1 drink a day is not addiction. If it is, then it's not a problem. It's when you rely on alcohol that it becomes a problem.

Depends on the drink.

[Manisch Depressiv]

Originally Posted by tris-

before you go saying what makes someone an alcoholic, you should read the definition of alcoholic created by EXPERTS in the medical field.

His definition is perfectly valid.

[soze]

Originally Posted by alcocolism

a chronic disorder characterized by dependence on alcohol, repeated excessive use of alcoholic beverages, the development of withdrawal symptoms on reducing or ceasing intake, morbidity that may include cirrhosis of the liver, and decreased ability to function socially and vocationally.

However self righteous 2 units a day does not fit in with this.

[kirennia]

To me, being an alchoholic would mean having it disrupt your day to day activities and/or lying about the amount you drink to people.

I drink a lot; probably what most people would see as too much but as far as I see it, I'm happy, I'm healthy, I don't get violent from alcohol, it doesn't detract me away from my work so f*** it, I'm having fun

This has become way too much of a 'public interest' way of thinking, drilling it into peoples heads that if they go and get drunk once a week, they all of a sudden have to start feeling guilty about it and this thread sort of sums up the power of the media in this respect... If you personally think you've gone too far at any time, cutback.

[Azurus]

Originally Posted by Bugz

Quality posting lads.

Makes for good reading

Is this a game to you Bugz!?!?

May i remind you that

[Ormorof]

i drink, but i dont think im an alcoholic simply because i know that i dont need to drink, ive gone 3-4 days in a row (hell when i was on holiday with my mates i was still a bit drunk when i woke up and carried on drinking throughout day and night for about 7 days) but was then happily sober for about 4 weeks afterwards, i drink because i enjoy drinking, i like the taste of drinks, i enjoy it in many different ways, sometimes ill sit in a pub and have one or two pints then go home happy, but not drunk, other times ill go out have a wild night of singing and dancing and be a bit of a mess, but as long as i remember everything in an evening (and there have been one or two times when ive not been able to remember anything and i do consider that as a "going to far" night ) and ive had a laugh, i generally am not violent when drunk i tend not to be sick or cause anyone any hassle, i dont see the problem with that, but i do see what y'all mean! some people will do anything if under pressure (and if you've ever been part of a sports team social at uni you'll probably know what i mean) and go absolutely nuts simply because someone tells them to O_o

ofc i know the health risks etc but im quite willing to admit i belong to the "it'll never happen to me crowd", its on the quotes part of these very forums "Immortal until proven otherwise"