[QUESTION] binge britain

[old.Tohtori]

No, i wasn't out drinking to get drunk. I drank while spending a night out. That all.

I don't have a need to limit my drinking by strict measures.

I didn't assume, you said "2 units a day" and until you corrected it, it was what you said, so i took it as "this is how it is with me as i'm saying it".

[tris-]

oh well. you drank alcohol despite the negative consequences, so youre an alcoholic

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Tris-, you've said exactly what could only be interpreted as you drinking 2 units per day. That means, every day to drink 2 units. If you didn't mean that, just say so. Stop whining about. You're the one making a bad judgement call on grammar there in that post. You can't blame someone for getting the only interpretation possible, even though you might have ment something else.

[tris-]

i already did say so.

im simply making a point that its annoying when someone is throwing words arund like theyre an expert on the subject.
i dont really take kindly to some random person saying "yep, youre an alcoholic". when a)they dont even know what it means and b)theres no basis to say it at all.
ive even admitted in the same post ive had a drinking problem. i dont now. for someone to come and say im an alcohlic is slightly aggrevating.

[old.Tohtori]

And yet you return the favor.

A simple "no i didn't mean 2 units/day, my bad" and that would be that.

If you drank 2units/day, you're addicted, aka, alcoholic, you don't, so you're not.

[leviathane]

Nice topic

/gets the popcorn.

*on topic, come to realise that most students exhibit alcoholic tendancies, but it's kinda socially accepted.

[tris-]

Originally Posted by old.Tohtori

If you drank 2units/day, you're addicted.

where do you get this information from?
it doesnt really fit with any expert definition of the disease of alcoholism.

Originally Posted by leviathane

*on topic, come to realise that most students exhibit alcoholic tendancies, but it's kinda socially accepted.

do you think it should be?
disocunting the health aspect as it is only the individual who suffers liver disease etc.

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

where do you get this information from?
it doesnt really fit with any expert definition of the disease of alcoholism.

Expert mexpert, who gives a rats a** what some bookworm who ahsn't had a drink in 20 odd years thinks.

It's simple, if you need to get a drink every day, you're an addcit, and if you're an addict of alcohol, you're an alcoholic.

If you can, for example, go two weeks without a drink, you're not.

[tris-]

who said anything about needing a drink?

theres a big difference to needing and simply sitting infront of the tv at night and suddenly thinking "i wouldnt mind a short".

maybe im a tv addict in that case. i usually watch it everyday. and come to think of it, i use my laptop everyday too.

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

who said anything about needing a drink?

theres a big difference to needing and simply sitting infront of the tv at night and suddenly thinking "i wouldnt mind a short".

maybe im a tv addict in that case. i usually watch it everyday. and come to think of it, i use my laptop everyday too.

This post isn't serious right?

"Oh i don't need a drink, i just have one daily". That's classic addiction talking.

I thought you, being a smart individual, would get this.

Not to mention, if you've been an addict, you're playing with fire.

[tris-]

being a smart person i rely on experts.
youre saying there is no difference between needing and wanting.

there is by the way.

if you did drink the same time everyday without fail you may well become addicted to the habbit of the action.
just like if i wank at 310 everyday for a month, it maybe difficult not to do it suddenly.

maybe your addicted to fh. you dont need to post everyday, but it does seem that you want to...

you may even be interested to know small and regular amounts of alcohol are also good for the CV system. why would experts recommend such a thing if its going to cause everyone to become raving alcoholics?

[old.Tohtori]

It's simple, no matter what you say, if you can't go without drinking, you're an addict aka alcoholic.

Drinking every day, even a drop, is not "going without".

You can say you want to drink, but if you can't go without, you need to drink.

And yes, if you wank at 3:10 everyday and then have trouble stopping it, you're addicted.

[tris-]

so you wont accept the obvious difference between needing and wanting then?

these are ofcourse your opinnions, and they dont agree with the facts in the real world.
im an academic im afraid. i dont think something holds much weight just as an opinnion no matter what spin is put on it (when talking about established facts).
get your idea tested, peer reviewed and put in a journal and ill believe you

[tris-]

back to the actual point in the thread though - is bingeing ok, and why do we accept it. but for example, we dont accept someone whos adicted to cocaine?

(ran out of time to edit my last post)

[old.Tohtori]

Originally Posted by tris-

so you wont accept the obvious difference between needing and wanting then?

these are ofcourse your opinnions, and they dont agree with the facts in the real world.

No, they are facts. Why are you so adament in saying i'm wrong?

If you can't be without something, you're addicted.

If you can't stop shooting heroin, you yourself wouldn't say "he just likes it", if the guy said "I'm not addicted, i choose to do so."

Not being able to be without drink, is alcoholism.

Every single person would look at it and go "Yup, that's addiction alright", except for one group...addicts in denial.