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Old 16th June 2008, 10:57 AM
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I think Levin did the right thing, Golena and Tohts long posts were too much. The point they were trying to make got lost in all the waffle. Too many opinions, with quotes that could be taken in a number of ways. That is why you both looked guilty to me, and dangerous to the towns survival if nothing else. Looking back, Levin caught onto a flaw (with morphios on day 1), and argued it well. Toht and Gol you jumped from one argument to the next. I do not know about the other players but I found my self skim reading your posts very quickly.

Sorry about that on day 1 Levin, I just thought Golenas flaw on the first set of posts was bigger than Morphios, and that was wrong. I'm usually good at jumping on little white lies as well :/
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Old 16th June 2008, 11:08 AM
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The thing is though, without me and golena doing the posty posty, it would've been like this on day one:

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Don't you agree?

if noone says anything, it's a shot in the dark. If you DO say something, you get hanged without even asking "which noose?".
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Old 16th June 2008, 11:30 AM
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No I don't agree. you confused matters too much. I had the same amount of time I have for most wolf games, I find time to analyse posts and reply lots. This time all my time was spent trawling the ten pages of insta spam you and gol generated every ten minutes

Hence any valid points you made got lost in the waffle. I am not saying people should be silent. But as a townie casting doubt on everyone and everything and then backing it up with some convinient quotes does nothing but help the mafia.
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Old 16th June 2008, 11:37 AM
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No I don't agree. you confused matters too much. I had the same amount of time I have for most wolf games, I find time to analyse posts and reply lots. This time all my time was spent trawling the ten pages of insta spam you and gol generated every ten minutes

Hence any valid points you made got lost in the waffle. I am not saying people should be silent. But as a townie casting doubt on everyone and everything and then backing it up with some convinient quotes does nothing but help the mafia.
Actually there wasn't that much "spam"(thank you) by me or golena, compared to the rest.

Not to mention, you were fine with it, evne saying "good post" to golena, until i made a longer then usual post. then it became shite.

Long post=not bothered to read != spam.

If you ignore points, fine, but it doesn't make it bad.
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Old 16th June 2008, 11:45 AM
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Sorry about that on day 1 Levin, I just thought Golenas flaw on the first set of posts was bigger than Morphios, and that was wrong. I'm usually good at jumping on little white lies as well :/
No worries at all. In your spot I might have looked at my jumping on Morphius as well and seen as suspicious. I think you and I have a similar direct approach playstyle by the way. In retrospect I'm of course very sorry we voted you out on day 1.
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Old 16th June 2008, 11:54 AM
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Hence the after I said spam Mr oversensitive

I found your two posts very hard work, Olgaline joined in as well. It honestly just made me switch off, and I usually really enjoy the arguments. I think it is honeslty because I felt your points were more fantasy than fact. Your views jumped to quickly, which is what made me think you were both mafia.
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Old 16th June 2008, 12:07 PM
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Hence the after I said spam Mr oversensitive

I found your two posts very hard work, Olgaline joined in as well. It honestly just made me switch off, and I usually really enjoy the arguments. I think it is honeslty because I felt your points were more fantasy than fact. Your views jumped to quickly, which is what made me think you were both mafia.
Not oversensitive, just saying that it's a bit rude as you've called it spam(or some such) before. Actually called it shite, but i guess that was just part of the game.

Had fair points there, if bothered to read and consider, but will go to the next game with a new plan.
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Old 16th June 2008, 12:09 PM
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I think I might try the quiet tactic next game, so don't hang me for that, ok? And by quiet I don't mean no posts.. just.. a lot fewer posts.
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i was really amazed at being never pushed this game, normally regardless of my innocence i get blamed, this time everyone took it for granted that im innocent and that was probably what made me get nightkilled. wish stuff like this happened when i was scum
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was before game #9 cant remember if it was before game #8 also

was just some random theme idea's aflik it was before you even announced that you'd runa theme game.
Ah, yes, I got that and read it, never got to replying to it and think I deleted it now Thats what happens when one is not too carefull, sorry I remember that it sounded decent, but did not fit what I wanted to do with game 10...
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Your views jumped to quickly, which is what made me think you were both mafia.
That was exactly my "plan". I deliberatly left holes in my arguments and jumped to conclusions to see who would pick up on that (more likely to be a townie looking for the truth) and who would use them to benefit themselves and use it against me. Seems too many people seemed to miss that however, think Toht saw it tho so it wasn't entirely wasted.

It doesn't work ofc if people just go, ooh a post over 12 words long, i'll skim that however so I guess a new plan is in order.
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I think I might try the quiet tactic next game, so don't hang me for that, ok?
I'll try and hang you for that.

Simply because being quiet gives no information whatsoever to the town. Spam filled pages do let on who is mafia if you want to trawl through and find the clues. By spamming lots the last 2 games i've found the mafia both times. Just this game I wasn't able to use it.

If nothing else quiet people give the mafia very easy and unsuspicious night kill targets, so you can't read any info from them. Someone dying who hasn't said more than 2 words at night is a wasted night from a townies point of view, and lynching the quiet ones early is by far the best town tactic.
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Seriously, don't be disappointed in me. In the game I was referring to where Tohtori was mafia, we would have won if I'd done what I did this time. So it's NOT always good for the town to wait and listen to people. I know it sucks to be hung innocently and that you want to blame someone, but hey, that's what happened to me last game 5 minutes before I managed to claim my cop role because I was out for lunch!

In this game, you simply looked more guilty to me, because Rubric played his whole game very strategically from the point where he came in. Give him some credit instead of blaming me.
Disapointed was perhaps the wrong word (I was jet lagged after a 15 hour flight and surprised to find the game ended so quickly more than anything). I wasn't really looking for someone to blame, just upset that I had worked out 99% who was mafia, had lots of arguments worked out in my head as to how to convey that and never got a chance to use them. (I'm not sure Rubric played the game that strategically, but credit to him on exploiting a weakness well which is what playing a mafia goon well is about) but there's always another game and it meant I didn't have to keep paying hotel internet prices to keep up with events so i'm not partically upset over it.
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