Where has the spirit of Midgard gone?

Phule_Gubben · #1 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 10:50 AM

Just curious what the f**k has happened to Midgard.

ToA has really shown that it is greed before anything else that makes this game boring in many ways. Camping artifact mobs with 1-3 AFK peepz just to get hold of something and then sell it to hilarious prizes.

If people just had some helping spirit in their mind and stopped thinking "I have to be filthy rich or, I got to have 361 Zahurs crowns or whatever" I think this game would be more appreciated by more people. Help out instead of run em over.

People selling scrolls for really steep prizes and so on isn't really helping anyone but them self. Sure i know that there are many crafters around and so on but there isn't a big problem to farm some cash and u all know it.

Personally I rather give away scrolls that i don't need myself then selling them for money, or I can trade for something I need. The way it is now is just sad to see really. Give a helping hand instead of kicking on them.

just my 2 cents.

Fenderon · #2 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 10:56 AM

Some sell scrolls for alot.. some even buy scrolls cheap and sell them for alot (that is worse imo). However, I have seen at least one CM where owner gives scrolls away for free

There is still hope.

Personally I made a gimped template (capping all resists, stats etc) with no + to melee speed etc. Why? dont have to fight the botcampers etc etc now.. and when I at some point might feel like it I can go get the items I want.. in a month or two.

(keyword is ofc. "etc")

Stranger · #3 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 10:58 AM

like everywhere... money >>> all.. especially in game, where u dont have to worry about health or love.. ppl try to get more money coz they will have or have in mind already to spend it on something.. what's the point of cash otherway?

As to me, I got all arts i need 2weeks ago

and yes I gotta be filthy rich

btw spirit of midgard gone long time ago... looooooong long time ago.. soz, there's no old school anymore

yaruar · #4 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Phule_Gubben

Just curious what the f**k has happened to Midgard.

ToA has really shown that it is greed before anything else that makes this game boring in many ways. Camping artifact mobs with 1-3 AFK peepz just to get hold of something and then sell it to hilarious prizes.

If people just had some helping spirit in their mind and stopped thinking "I have to be filthy rich or, I got to have 361 Zahurs crowns or whatever" I think this game would be more appreciated by more people. Help out instead of run em over.

People selling scrolls for really steep prizes and so on isn't really helping anyone but them self. Sure i know that there are many crafters around and so on but there isn't a big problem to farm some cash and u all know it.

Personally I rather give away scrolls that i don't need myself then selling them for money, or I can trade for something I need. The way it is now is just sad to see really. Give a helping hand instead of kicking on them.

just my 2 cents.

I think it's always been like that. Although the fact there is rediculous amounts of money in midgard is probably the reason. Someone mentioned in game last night that they knew od someone who paid 135p for the tg warrior vest. Silly money.

It didn't help that up until recently focus pulling was an easy way to farm, I think this made a lot of people realise they can make a fortune from farming objects.

TOA has just made this worse. People know certain artifacts and objects are hard to get and on long spawn times so just farm them.

Just look at the auction boards, there are two SoM on there (last time I counted) which has got to be a slap in the face for all the genuine people who can't do the encounter due to farmers camping it.

I do think TOA has brought out the worst in so many people. People stealing items from raids, people cheating more in lottos and doing whatever just to get what they want.

Fana · #5 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 12:17 PM

Agree with Phule. ToA has really shown the true nature of many people

Those that camp artifacts with long spawntime for profit, roll for scrolls only to sell them (for silly high prices) and otherwise make it harder for their realm comrades to enjoy the game should be ashamed in my humble oppinion.

Maybe this has alwys been that way but ToA, with its concentration of "needed" items, has really accentuated the problem. But, even if this *has* always been the way, it is not a good reason for keeping it that way.

Kami · #6 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 12:28 PM

TOA might have shown the nature of some people but please don't go tarring everyone because of them. I rarely play TOA (can't be arsed with it) and spend most of my time in SI, the people there have actually been nicer lately albeit because I usually ask them what the fancy shield is or where they got the funny looking helm :P

A friend of mine started playing DAOC last week, from level 1 upwards the people in and around Aegir, gna faste and Mularn have been very helpful from what he's told me. I don't think he's had even one negative experience of the game yet!

Gravmaskin · #7 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 12:28 PM

Sure i have taken some artifacts when passing and they where up that i didn't need but i have given or sold extremly cheap to guild-mates and friends. Seldom stand and camp an artifact that is to boring, rather logg a spy there to i can check in once in a while. And i would never camp a mob for money (if i need money i rather go DF and farm, and right now i have an artifacts that needs DF-xp so i have 1 more reason to be there)

Urme the Legend · #8 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phule_Gubben

People selling scrolls for really steep prizes and so on isn't really helping anyone but them self. Sure i know that there are many crafters around and so on but there isn't a big problem to farm some cash and u all know it.

Personally I rather give away scrolls that i don't need myself then selling them for money, or I can trade for something I need. The way it is now is just sad to see really. Give a helping hand instead of kicking on them.

just my 2 cents.

I agree and I disagree..
I'm levling some artifacts on mobs that drops really rare scrolls, and I level them there just because I can make some money on the scrolls at the same time. So instead of levling artifact and then go and farm diamonds in DF.. I sell the scrolls that drops and I just saved myself 5-10 hours of PvE in DF.

Scrolls is a new way to make money in DAoC.. 80% of the scrolls drops from blue-orange con mobs to.. so most people can farm them if they just put some time in it.
But most scrolls are so common now that you can probably afford them if you go out to mularn and kill a greycon skeleton :P

I agree about the Artifact part though.. camping an artifact and tell other people to piss off or whatever just so you can get it and sell it for insane amount of money is ridiculous, because the pop time on many artifacts are like 8-12 hours+.

And I'm helping people with quests/artifacts/ML's etc.. it's just that I will probably never give away a scroll that is worth a few plats.. exception have and will be made of course

And since most stuff aren't for free in DAoC you need the cash sooner or later. (My 40plat house went POOF for example

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Archeon · #9 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 12:43 PM

TOA just brought this more into the light, there have been 'Selling' problems in Midgard for as long as I care to remember. Sadly i'd have to agree with Stranger though, there is very little sense of community in Midgard anymore. Atleast from my point of view

Urme the Legend · #10 (**permalink**) 19th April 2004, 12:52 PM

Btw I know people who had some chars logged in TG for several months farming high level mobs and sold those stuff.. can't see any difference in farming TG for items you didn't need and then sell it.. and farming scrolls you don't need and sell those.