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its quite possible there will be no english origin server on eu.
german and french population is alot bigger.
there was an english classic server, quite irritating for the french, which ended in becoming clustered with the german.

there will be the us option, but of suck. a big zerg fest amg - bowl - mmg.

imo only further clustering and new frontier zones (a much bigger agramon isle) can be a step forward at the current state of game

If there where a EU Origin server I think it should be German since they have the highest population, I wouldn't mind since I wouldn't consider setting my foot on a GOA ran server this lifetime

Not a bad tradeoff having english language and play on "offtimes" on a server wich will probably have a 3k population on primetime. Alot of people who did play DAoC in its height, moved on to WoW, EVE, Lineage, The lord of the ring thing, AoC.

WoW - people are leaving WoW in droves it seems.

AoC - once you get 80, get Teir1 epics your done, there is nothing to do but ffa pvp wich is a "waste of time" at this stage.

EVE - getting old people moving to new games, such as AoC ( look above )

Lineage died no?

I think if mythic market their Origin server, offer free 8 days play time for all old subscribers and get the server correct ( as in not going through with alot of the crap they are thinking about ) it could work well in their favor while other games mature and before their own new launch.
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a few hundred ppl from my country, who tried aoc are back in wow.
most of them in the forums were disappointed by:
the requirements,
the lack of support,
the slug speed of patching important stuff,
the lack of contain,
the lack of class balance, especially the buffs and nerfs of the casters
the lack of role play in general
the lack of pvp motivation
the lack of economy and crafts

in their words : aoc was hyped, only some nice graphics who demand to much and everything else pales to wow.

they just can't wait for the new expansion
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Looks like they are trying to do the same as they are in WAR. For most classes there will be an almost exact equivalent for each realm and then there will be slight differences with the hybrids. The main difference in the realms at the moment is in the CC and buffing characters and both of these are being looked at.

Heavy Tanks
Alb: Armsmen
Hib: Hero
Mid: Warrior

Light Tanks
Alb: Mercenary
Hib: Blademaster
Mid: Berserker

Melee Healer
Alb: Friar
Hib: Warden
Mid: Valk

Hybrid Melee
Alb: Paladin
Hib: Champion
Mid: Thane

Pet Caster
Alb: Cabalist
Hib: Enchanter
Mid: Spiritmaster

Bolt Caster
Alb: Wizard
Hib: Eldritch
Mid: Runemaster

Music Class
Alb: Minstrel
Hib: Bard
Mid: Skald

Primary Healer
Alb: Cleric
Hib: Druid
Mid: Healer

Ranged Hybrid
Alb: Sorc
Hib: Mentalist
Mid: Shaman

Stealthers
Alb: Infiltrator, Scout
Hib: Nightshade, Ranger
Mid: ShadowBlade, Hunter

I know some of these don't quite match up yet but from what is being said about changes to buffing and CC I wouldn't be surprised if classes got made alot more similar. For example: If they nerf mezz they need to give bards a boost and who would bet against them being given improved melee to make them more like skald/minstrel?
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Looks like they are trying to do the same as they are in WAR. For most classes there will be an almost exact equivalent for each realm and then there will be slight differences with the hybrids.
That actually makes a lot of sense, they are probably using origins to test the rvr viability of the classes in war, to avoid any unforseen balance problems on release.
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tanks are quite similar, but casters and support classes are a lot different and complex.
and i think there are too few caster / healer classes in war.
if i am not mistaken there are 1/4 casters 1/4 healers 2/4 tanks atm
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This thread fails!

3rd page and not 1 possible 8v8 setup has been suggested for Origins!!

Anyway, our guild realm poll has hibs winning atm, so we'll probably roll hib. I think we're probably going to run 1 tank and 1 caster group (we have about 24 oldschool prydwen'ers signed up for origins) as seperate FGs ofc.

Tank group we're thinking along the lines of:

BM/BM/Hero or Champ/Mana Eld/Druid/Druid/Bard/Warden

Caster Group:

Mana Eld/Mana Ench/Light Ench or Ment/BM/Warden/Bard/Druid/Druid

alternatively

Light Eld/Light Eld/Mana Ench as casting crew. Depends how well the guys end up playing together as to what exact caster crew we'll run.
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is there any hard evidence yet of what they are actually doing , beyond the "changing this or that" ?
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most of them in the forums were disappointed by:
Could have been just a bunch of spoiled kids aka forum whiners you can usually find on official forums :P.

But keep going so I can keep giggling at the guys looking for the holy grail aka THE NEXT/RIGHT/ONLY GAME which I am sure DAoC Origins will be for them for 1 month until they make a whine thread about it.
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This thread fails!

3rd page and not 1 possible 8v8 setup has been suggested for Origins!!

Anyway, our guild realm poll has hibs winning atm, so we'll probably roll hib. I think we're probably going to run 1 tank and 1 caster group (we have about 24 oldschool prydwen'ers signed up for origins) as seperate FGs ofc.

Tank group we're thinking along the lines of:

BM/BM/Hero or Champ/Mana Eld/Druid/Druid/Bard/Warden

Caster Group:

Mana Eld/Mana Ench/Light Ench or Ment/BM/Warden/Bard/Druid/Druid

alternatively

Light Eld/Light Eld/Mana Ench as casting crew. Depends how well the guys end up playing together as to what exact caster crew we'll run.
Why not just make some random semi-opted group for maximum epeen or play some laddered game instead? :P
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Could have been just a bunch of spoiled kids aka forum whiners you can usually find on official forums :P.

But keep going so I can keep giggling at the guys looking for the holy grail aka THE NEXT/RIGHT/ONLY GAME which I am sure DAoC Origins will be for them for 1 month until they make a whine thread about it.
Yes, you don't like the origins concept bla bla fail dramatically bla bla forum whine etc, we know that already. Time to move on?
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Why not just make some random semi-opted group for maximum epeen or play some laddered game instead? :P
The title of the thread is obviously about opted setups in Origins, if you're not interested in either, is there any reason beyond trolling that you're bothering to post?
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Looks like they are trying to do the same as they are in WAR. For most classes there will be an almost exact equivalent for each realm and then there will be slight differences with the hybrids. The main difference in the realms at the moment is in the CC and buffing characters and both of these are being looked at.

Heavy Tanks
Alb: Armsmen
Hib: Hero
Mid: Warrior

Light Tanks
Alb: Mercenary
Hib: Blademaster
Mid: Berserker

Melee Healer
Alb: Friar
Hib: Warden
Mid: Valk

Hybrid Melee
Alb: Paladin
Hib: Champion
Mid: Thane

Pet Caster
Alb: Cabalist
Hib: Enchanter
Mid: Spiritmaster

Bolt Caster
Alb: Wizard
Hib: Eldritch
Mid: Runemaster

Music Class
Alb: Minstrel
Hib: Bard
Mid: Skald

Primary Healer
Alb: Cleric
Hib: Druid
Mid: Healer

Ranged Hybrid
Alb: Sorc
Hib: Mentalist
Mid: Shaman

Stealthers
Alb: Infiltrator, Scout
Hib: Nightshade, Ranger
Mid: ShadowBlade, Hunter

I know some of these don't quite match up yet but from what is being said about changes to buffing and CC I wouldn't be surprised if classes got made alot more similar. For example: If they nerf mezz they need to give bards a boost and who would bet against them being given improved melee to make them more like skald/minstrel?



so basicly no shamans, and ppl wanna roll mid?
(dont know if valks have group end regen..
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so basicly no shamans, and ppl wanna roll mid?
(dont know if valks have group end regen..
Some questions are orgininal baod in or not?
And if you remove theurgists how are alb supposed to interrupt healers? Cabba only have one pet unless they have changed that.
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Could have been just a bunch of spoiled kids aka forum whiners you can usually find on official forums :P.

But keep going so I can keep giggling at the guys looking for the holy grail aka THE NEXT/RIGHT/ONLY GAME which I am sure DAoC Origins will be for them for 1 month until they make a whine thread about it.
the mean meaning is this:
even after 2 months aoc is not even close to 1/10 of wow at its current state...

they got all things sorted out in wow and they have a nice time

and most of them are seasoned players and 20+ of age.
i have played with them in daoc or wow and met them in rl, but its much easier to post in forums
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Some questions are orgininal baod in or not?
And if you remove theurgists how are alb supposed to interrupt healers? Cabba only have one pet unless they have changed that.
nearsight? rr5 pet? dot as last resort?
sorc's bolt range mez?
i was playing in pure caster grp in classic with 2 sorcs 2 caba 1 minstrel and a theurg.
pets were never a problem even when there was a sorc replacing the theurg.
8 players and 6 pets and 1 sorc was always aoe mezzing debuffing in between assisting
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