DAOC new Server time OLD OF no TOA/DR/LOTM

[Ctuchik]

Originally Posted by GReaper

Is spellcrafting really that bad?

on a ToA enabled server i'd say no, its not that bad. but on a "classic" server i think it would be.

mostly because even if ToA and the artifacts isnt gonna be there u'd still run around with capped, or near capped stats. making the whole server pretty pointless as its just gonna be a ghetto version of ToA.

lets just hope they modify SC enough so that it aint happening.

[Jarakin]

Originally Posted by Ctuchik

on a ToA enabled server i'd say no, its not that bad. but on a "classic" server i think it would be.

mostly because even if ToA and the artifacts isnt gonna be there u'd still run around with capped, or near capped stats. making the whole server pretty pointless as its just gonna be a ghetto version of ToA.

lets just hope they modify SC enough so that it aint happening.

I reckon that a server where you need capped from SC is >>> than running on a server where you need dragon drops to get the edge..

[Gahn]

Originally Posted by Jarakin

I reckon that a server where you need capped from SC is >>> than running on a server where you need dragon drops to get the edge..

QFT! And Jara .. keep a space for me on that server!

[Drucken]

I don't see why you think having capped stats is a problem, after all that is how it was through all of SI and alot of people here has been saying that was the best time ever in daoc, and I agree. What's wrong with capped stats if everyone can easily have it?
I'd say it's worse when people need items that are super rare and super exensive which means casual players can't play on the same level, gear-wise, as the hardcore players

[Tuorin]

Originally Posted by Jarakin

Tuo!!!! I've been looking for you for ages mate, I think I have you added to MSN, but never see you on... if you use it, pop me your address!!

Hoi Jara, will do!

[Jarakin]

Originally Posted by Tuorin

Hoi Jara, will do!

Got your message - popped you one back!

Originally Posted by Gahn

QFT! And Jara .. keep a space for me on that server!

Will do m8 Any interest from NFD in the new server?

[Gahn]

Originally Posted by Jarakin

Got your message - popped you one back!



Will do m8 Any interest from NFD in the new server?

Seems people are a bit tired of rerolling, but gonna have a poll when closer to it

[Genedril]

Originally Posted by Gahn

Seems people are a bit tired of rerolling, but gonna have a poll when closer to it

Tired of re-rolling to fight the same old rubbish maybe .

I keep meaning to log on for a Sunday night session & somehow life just gets in the way. On top of that my accounts are expiring & I've no motivation to renew.

[WiZe^]

wonder IF they gonna have NPC buffers and if so how it will work ?

[Faeldawn]

Originally Posted by BloodOmen

So in short its just a "Classic(glastonbury etc)" server without CL's/DR/CATAS etc, it sounds utterly bollocks if all of the above is 100% true. So claps to mythic for attempting to ruin DAOC.... AGAIN.

Exactly.

They announce a pre-SI, OF server, then proceed to do the usual Mythic flip-flop and change it.

Oh, we'll let Valks in, we'll allow cata races, we'll use the new archery system, we'll remove theurgs, we'll put in some kind of half-assed level griefing restrictions etc etc.

[Faeldawn]

Originally Posted by Drucken

I don't see why you think having capped stats is a problem, after all that is how it was through all of SI and alot of people here has been saying that was the best time ever in daoc, and I agree. What's wrong with capped stats if everyone can easily have it?
I'd say it's worse when people need items that are super rare and super exensive which means casual players can't play on the same level, gear-wise, as the hardcore players

Grinding crafters on a pre-SI server was hideously tedious and horifically expensive. Players will be coming in at level 1 with nothing, who has the time to level to 50, level crafters etc etc before they can enjoy rvr?

I can just see the whine from players getting farmed by assassins while trying to grind in (or running to and from) the crafting keeps (you wanted pre-SI OF, you got it, no realm-side high level crafting merchants boys and girls!).....unless ofc they change ANOTHER thing, further removing it from the initial concept.

If i remember rightly, it cost 20p+ to level a SC in SI, with no housing merchants, no drops worth much because of no ToA hyper-inflation that is a LOT of cash to farm from mobs who drop basically sod-all but the occasional useless (thanks to min/maxing) rare drop. Will they revert to the original crafting gain system, or use the new one? Again, the new on is far, far easier (and a damn site better), but it's another thing thats not pre-SI OF DAoC.

Farming high level mobs with no anis, theurgs, necros, BD's etc does appeal to the masocchist in me, 8-man tank-group pve was fun back in the day

The more you look, the more there is to consider and im betting the more it will stop resembling the server they are toting it as.

[BloodOmen]

Originally Posted by Faeldawn

Grinding crafters on a pre-SI server was hideously tedious and horifically expensive. Players will be coming in at level 1 with nothing, who has the time to level to 50, level crafters etc etc before they can enjoy rvr?

I can just see the whine from players getting farmed by assassins while trying to grind in (or running to and from) the crafting keeps (you wanted pre-SI OF, you got it, no realm-side high level crafting merchants boys and girls!).....unless ofc they change ANOTHER thing, further removing it from the initial concept.

If i remember rightly, it cost 20p+ to level a SC in SI, with no housing merchants, no drops worth much because of no ToA hyper-inflation that is a LOT of cash to farm from mobs who drop basically sod-all but the occasional useless (thanks to min/maxing) rare drop. Will they revert to the original crafting gain system, or use the new one? Again, the new on is far, far easier (and a damn site better), but it's another thing thats not pre-SI OF DAoC.

Farming high level mobs with no anis, theurgs, necros, BD's etc does appeal to the masocchist in me, 8-man tank-group pve was fun back in the day

The more you look, the more there is to consider and im betting the more it will stop resembling the server they are toting it as.

we used to pve with 7 paladins and 1 cleric xD was quite amusing tbh, cleric got bored and logged off tho

used to pve with tank grps alot aye tho was well fun especially with a full dark RM in grp for damage add.

[gwal]

belive im gonna give it a try, been missing daoc so much

[Eleasias]

Haha, min/maxing started with SC? It _CURED_ min/maxing (until the release of ToA), everyone could get capped stats with moderate ease. SI perioid was the best daoc has ever had when it comes to simplicity of pve and getting ready for rvr. Just do a couple of straight-forward item quests, buy your armor and get it sc'd and off you go, the best system that daoc has ever had. Before that, it was countless hours spent camping item drops (Siabra queen in Bog of Cullen anyone) OTD drops (YEAH DOB IS GONNA SPAWN SOON.. 6 hrs later.. yeah lets try this tomorrow again!)

It was horrible. The idea in everyone's mind that people were not running templates before SC is so horribly wrong it boggles my mind. People were min/maxing to high heaven and it took so much effort most people didnt even start to think anyone did it. I bet EVERYONE would love to do countless Cursed Forest runs again, yeah? You guys are so blinded by nostalgia it makes me sick. Atleast we have crafting calculators now so we dont have to do it in Notepad anymore.

Why does it matter to me, the hardcore DAoC'er? First of all, I will have a competitive and a good all around template, no matter what, that's just the way I work. The easier and faster it is to get, the better. Why? Because I wont enjoy getting it, but I will get it simply because I refuse to lose because someone else did get theirs. And if its easy to get, EVERYONE will be able to get it and finally you guys wont be crying about templates, realm rank or what not when I grind you to the ground, just like in SI.

It really confuses me why 'casuals' would be against spellcrafting because thats the goddamn answer to putting all the gamers on the same starting line without tricked out templates and endless hours spent camping mobs.

Oh and removing theurg makes perfect sense. Anyone who has the slightest clue how pets and interrupt work in DAoC RvR knows how sickeningly overpowered class the theurgist is, then you have the noobs who think theurgist is an 'ok' class and some are stupid enough to actually think they are somehow underpowered. The whole class was a mistake to begin with.

[Ctuchik]

Originally Posted by Jarakin

I reckon that a server where you need capped from SC is >>> than running on a server where you need dragon drops to get the edge..

Maybe, but ppl have been begging for a TRUE classic server for i dunno how many years. Now that Mythic is giving them one (or atleast as close as it will ever come), ppl start to beg for stuff that ISNT part of classic.

Classic, atleast in my books is just that, none of that SI and above shit. Yes i know SC came 1 (2 in the US) patches before SI did but its still very much a part of SI.

hell i remember when that lvl 24(?) +2 stealth cloak in albion were THE cloak to get for their stealthers. ppl were paying 2+ plat for it from low lvl's that did the quest.

or when having 2 band of ice were special, especially for albs or hibs as those only dropped in midgard frontiers.

ppl dont want a classic server. they want a non ToA server with ToA bonuses enabled... and that sure as hell isnt classic.