MacBook Air

[Sparx]

Dont forget no DVD drive either, but they say you can wireless borrow another PCs drive

That means people will have to buy another PC just to burn, with only 1 USB port it'll make life so difficult

[GReaper]

Whilst it looks like a nice product, is it really that great when you actually look into it? Yes it's nice and thin, but are the compromises worth it?

Slower/smaller hard disk, weak processor, no cd/dvd drive, no ethernet, a single usb port, internal graphics, etc. All of those reductions just to make it that little bit thinner and you still get the rather hefty Apple price tag.

Most Apple products are on the expensive side, but at least a few can be considered reasonable value for money. Sadly this product is merely a typical Apple flashy toy, and you pay a premium for it.

[Chilly]

Originally Posted by DaGaffer

Oh come on, if you can make a mobile phone with removable batteries you can do it with this. Its just the usual incremental revenue scam from Apple.

They only charge $130 to replace the battery. Thats £60-£70 for parts and labour, doesnt sound like a scam to me. OK, so they could have dirtied up the casing a bit and given users the power to change the battery themselves. How much do you rekon an official replacement battery costs? Probably about £40-50, I know dell certainly charge that kind of money at retail or more.

[DaGaffer]

Originally Posted by Chilly

They only charge $130 to replace the battery. Thats £60-£70 for parts and labour, doesnt sound like a scam to me. OK, so they could have dirtied up the casing a bit and given users the power to change the battery themselves. How much do you rekon an official replacement battery costs? Probably about £40-50, I know dell certainly charge that kind of money at retail or more.

So its a £20 labour charge that you wouldn't otherwise have. Sounds like a ripoff to me. But to be honest, that's not the point. Laptop batteries start to degrade pretty much from the moment you start using them. You don't necessarily want to replace the battery when its completely dead, so you get a spare before you reach that point. Plus, if you're actually using your light, thin sub-notebook in the real world, you know, like travelling and stuff, the ability to swap in a spare battery to keep working, (watch movies, whatever) is an absolute boon. It feels like this is a device designed to be used around the home or office (close to a wireless network), which makes its thinness much less valuable; I don't really care about having the lightest/thinnest lappy when I'm at home/work, but I do care about it when I have to carry the damn thing, and that's when this is at its least useful. Don't get me wrong, I actually really fancy the idea of a Mac sub-notebook but this is misconceived.

[ford prefect]

I wouldn't make too big a thing of the processor. Comparing mac processing to windows processing is like comparing chalk and cheese. Mac gets a lot more punch for your mhz.

It would be nice to have a battery uyou can change yourself, however £60 or 70 seems a reasonable price, a few years ago you would have paid close to that for a new laptop battery from the likes of dell anyway.

[Sparx]

The IBM x61 pisses all over it, i have one its fantastic there is even a docking station with dvd drive on it and it barely adds to the size

Lenovo Support & downloads - Overview - ThinkPad X61, X61s

oh i also have one of the T61 widescreen which is a dream to use

Lenovo - ThinkPad T Series - T61 Features

[MYstIC G]

Originally Posted by Deebs

Got an iPhone then pete?

He might not but I do. It's actually weirdly satisfying. I would point out though it was a present and I'd have never bought it otherwise.

Also now I've gotten used to it's UI, the way iTunes works actually makes a degree of sense. Although I'm glad I've got my new quad core to run it on because iTunes is still a dog.

[cHodAX]

This says it all for me really...

Shut Up About The Macbook Air | Bad Ass MoFo

[Sparx]

lol chod your post has linked back to the site

[Rubric]

Originally Posted by ford prefect

I agree that macs tend to be made poorly, but someone has to say it... Mac OS is so far ahead of windows in so many ways its just not funny.

The OS is stable, never known one to need a reinstall, and for messing with video and other memory intensive tasks it blow windows away. Personally in the OS stakes, I would say MS are four to five years behind apple now.

Ah, *shakes head* classic.

[cHodAX]

Originally Posted by Sparx

lol chod your post has linked back to the site

Hehe, nice. Bit of free publicity never hurts.

[Kryten]

Prefect : I agree, OSX is lightyears ahead of windows, but it's still not as user friendly as Mac or mac users would like others to think. Thats something that needs development on both sides.

Worth pointing out that the most input Apple had on OSX/Leopard etc was the logo.
Which is no bad thing, it'll run on a PC with variable ease and theres plenty of near identical OS's available :/

[Tilda]

ASUS EeePC pisses all over that, price, usb ports, OS, size, weight, battery replaceablity.

[Big G]

i'll have a Vaio k thx

[Sharma]

More lifestyle bullshit from Apple really.

Incredibly overpriced, lifestyle rubbish.

I have this arguement with my brother all the bloody time, he states "well why are macs getting more and more popular?" my response is usually along the lines of "Well because dicky little kids who want to be with the 'in' crowd torture their hideously overpaid parents to buy something that costs over £1000 and a new model will come out the following year.

I'd rather do my yearly upgrade cycle which costs about £400 thanks.

I'd rather use a computer that does what I tell it to rather than being "user friendly" and inevitably tells me what to do.

That laptop is a load of bloody garbage when theres so much better alternatives on the market but it'll end up selling because of the lifestyle kids who think it's cool to spend way too much money on a substandard piece of kit because OMG ITS WHITE AND COOL.

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Apple are shit.