Toa didn't ruin Daoc

[Kuja]

I've come to a conclusion that ToA is so much fun, finally casters get some lovin, sorcs ranged CC stands a chance against insta with the new +casting speed %.

But more to the point of the thread, I believe that the expansion hasn't ruined the game, we have. I fail to see how we can defeat the hibs and mids if we fight among ourselves.

Why must people sells scrolls for stupid amounts of gold? Would some 1 really be able to farm a place like DF for 4 hours and earn say 20p for a scroll.. doesnt make sense. If there is a scroll I really want, can get it within a day...but cant make the gold for this. Wouldnt it be wise if people sold artis and scrolls cheap? Therefore people dont have to spend days farming..when they cud be in RvR...Its stupid.

Greed is making the game harder for us to compete. Take today for example. Trying to get Traldors for my sorc, started the raid part moved chars to temple started killing mobs inside. Necro came along saw I was trying to traldors. Then I died ( stupid necro pets ) . He asked if i was on my way back, or if he could kill. B4 I died I already notcied he had traldors.. Kindly he was going to allow me to go back. He then afford to sell the scroll to me..not too keen on the idea..sed sorc needs credit. Afford to sell for 200g, thought wow saves me moving necro back, also don't want to be locked outside temple. So took sorc back..got there and was another sorc there and a BB. joined the group and now was told the arti was being rolled for..also this other sorc had Tartaros Gift..I realise they both may have been getting to a friend/guildie..if not they want to sell.. I partictulary find this greedy and I wasn't best pleased I was messed about and spent my time getting the temple open only to have had the arti taken from my grasp.

I know saying this isnt going to make every1 drop their CM scrolls down to 10g...but to be frank the less people that are running around like headless chickens trying to get scrolls and artis, the more that will be out in RvR.

[Chrystina]

I totally agree ... scroll prices make us lose against hibs/mids in RvR ... no doubt about that!

[leviathane]

just greed in general tbh, when ppl farm a certain arti several times over which they don't need, whilst people who need it have to wait ages for it to repop in some cases.

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Even though I'm not an arthur follower I totally agree.... but on the other side if the water it's just thesame... Healing embrace was on CM a while ago for 30p....

[Prothoe]

Originally Posted by Kuja

Wouldnt it be wise if people sold artis and scrolls cheap? Therefore people dont have to spend days farming..when they cud be in RvR...Its stupid.

err .. no ?
its called supply and demand , welcome to the real world Kuja

[Svavel]

Thought it was a game..

[Prothoe]

Yep, sure its just a game Svavel , but would you you be prepared to spend days (in real life time) farming for an item + missing out on alot of RvR fun to sell a scroll at a low price?
What would be someones motivation to log onto DAoC and do this?
Just think for a second what you are talking about here, if Mythic set a "ceiling" price for all items / scrolls and you could not price it higher on your CM than that, there would be alot "less" items available on housing , people would only farm for themselves and friends.
At a very basic level this is capatalism vs communism.
Not saying your ideas are wrong Kuja , i sure would like to spend my time in RvR while someone else farms for me :>
Anyway im off to smoke some weed and listen to John Lennon 'Imagine'

[willowywicca]

Tbh high prices aren't an issue, since it's just a medium to simplify the bartering process.. sure that scroll you may want may cost 10p (omg!) but then all the scrolls you have are also worth high amounts, so you sell them then buy your scroll.. if the scroll you wanted had cost 1p and all your scrolls were similarily 1/10th price... you'd still have to sell em all anyway to afford that 1p "cheap" scroll...

All toa has done is lower the value of money by making it far far easier to get... this doesn't actually mean it's tougher now to buy stuff, in fact I'd argue it's easier than ever to get loads of money.

On the matter of people camping/stealing artifacts jsut to sell.. that is something I think we could do with seeing less of ><

[Enariol]

I think I know who the sorc with Tartaros & BB was, and if I'm right he's redoing his template with Traldor's. Don't be too quick on judging people, goes for everyone and every situation

[Devaster]

Originally Posted by willowywicca

Tbh high prices aren't an issue, since it's just a medium to simplify the bartering process.. sure that scroll you may want may cost 10p (omg!)

yer 10p tyrus scroll on u'r CM was qq irl
but then again toa offered me the oportunity to earn loads of cash fast and easy so those 10p i spent tend to 0 comparing the overall income.

the other thing is some ppl are just to lazy or hopeless to benefit of TOA saying omg! wtf are these prices ? im sure the owner of this house meant gold piecies but clicked wrong button!

If u want everything, fast and cheap this game isnt anymore for you, the times when u could pwl a char in 2 days make him 99%sc capping everything and go pwn pwn is over.

[Krissy]

On a side note about scroll prices :

Scroll prices may be high but this is due to lazy albs. No excuses for it. Albion has lots of Matter speced Cabalists, Paladins, Minstrels, which are fantastic classes for farming with specialy when you add a BuffBot. So imo theres no excuses here, scroll prices are down to albs being lazy, if it wasnt then the prices would drop as many would farm their own scrolls and crash the market.

Greed may be the end result but being lazy is the catylist.

[NeonBlue]

Originally Posted by Kuja

sorcs ranged CC stands a chance against insta with the new +casting speed %.

zzzzzz!

[leviathane]

aye but you also need a buffbot to do that bit buggered if you don't, have to rely on help.

[fortunefish]

grrrr

prothoe stop flameing him/her

i mean an argument is an argument but dude thats just rude

/slap and grow up please


wub to the victim

[Prothoe]

Originally Posted by fortunefish

grrrr

prothoe stop flameing him/her

i mean an argument is an argument but dude thats just rude

/slap and grow up please


wub to the victim

I was hardly flaming her or being rude

cant see any arguments on this thread, just a discussion about ToA prices

/slap and get over yourself please