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Old 14th May 2008, 06:51 AM
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No its a perfect example of why not to cheat.
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perfect example of why not to use steam.
You know nothing about it
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Hated steam at first. Spend a fortune on there now
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i know enough to not use it.

if there to fucking lazy to unban a hacked account, and not only that, they are to lazy to even check it up! then i don't want anything to do with it.

and yes you CAN check that stuff. i dare say that 99% of all that's using the internet in one way or another have a permanent IP. you just check if a different IP have connected with that account at the time of the banning.

sure, nothing says its not just him using a different PC but its still a fairly small chance of that happening. but then again were talking ppl that play cheater strike and the likes here so.... from that view i can see why they don't.

still a retarded way of dealing with their customers tho.
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Old 21st June 2008, 08:29 PM
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Oh god you are missing the point by a mile.

Do you really believe an account can be "hacked" that easily? Read between the lines.
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Old 22nd June 2008, 09:34 AM
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lol Ctuchik you fuking simpleton
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i know enough to not use it.

if there to fucking lazy to unban a hacked account, and not only that, they are to lazy to even check it up! then i don't want anything to do with it.

and yes you CAN check that stuff. i dare say that 99% of all that's using the internet in one way or another have a permanent IP. you just check if a different IP have connected with that account at the time of the banning.

sure, nothing says its not just him using a different PC but its still a fairly small chance of that happening. but then again were talking ppl that play cheater strike and the likes here so.... from that view i can see why they don't.

still a retarded way of dealing with their customers tho.
You dont know anything about "it", as throd said. "It" meaning this thread as opposed to steam, but you also dont seem very well informed about steam either. I'm rather bored waiting for a webhost to sort me out with an SQL database so I'll try to shed a little light on this for you:

There are anywhere between 600,000 and 1.3 million people using steam at any one time, averages would point to this meaning easily over a million seperate users every day. (source: Steam: Game and Player Statistics)

If only 1% of those users are involved in hacking incidents, that is 10 thousand users a day.

You expect Valve to investigate 10000 seperate user's cases every day? That is just over 400 cases an hour; just under 7 cases per minute - and that assumes they're at it 24 hours a day. How many people would they have to employ to be capable of doing this? More than one certainly, so that assumes more than £20k a year?

For what? The people they are banning have already paid for the game, they pay no subscription so the only losses are potential products the person might buy, and that ignores the fact that a certain amount of those banned will go straight back to the shops and buy another account in order to keep playing.

The amount of money involved is hardly enough to support the employment of one person, which, we've already established, isnt enough to do the job.

So is it 'fucking laziness'? A 'retarded' way to treat 'customers'? Or just plain common sense?

VAC is actually very accurate in its detection of hackers - it may take a while to catch them, but if someone is hacking you can bet they'll be gone before long, I've seen it happen too many times. So why should they waste money on people who are cheating?

The amount of people wrongly banned must be so infinitestimally small that it just isnt worth bothering about, it would be a "retarded way to treat customers" if they wasted money trying to do it, I'd rather they spent the money on developing a better game tbh.

Either way - they take a hard line with cheaters, which can only be a good thing as long as stupid amounts of people are not banned for no reason, which they clearly arent because steam is still popular. When I play CSS I'd rather play in an environment with less cheaters and strict rules than a hippie human rights convention where everyone and his dog has wallhacks.
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You...bla bla bla bla ..wallhacks.
You seem awfully well informed for a midget. Are you a Valve PLANT?
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